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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 13:25:56 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 23, 2010 14:05:22 GMT
Has been available from various sources before but very good online quality!
Baker to Uxb in 6.13mins - those Edwardians knew a thing or two!
Have the white station name boards been put up specially for the film?
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 23, 2010 17:40:03 GMT
The caption states: "Temporary signs have been placed to identify each station as it passes"
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Post by metman on Jan 23, 2010 18:24:19 GMT
This is great! Very interesting indeed. There are banner signals at many of the stations and did anyone notice the 3 car saloon stock train made up of a DT, T and one of the double ended compartment stock motor cars!
Baker Street was a weird looking station before it was rebuilt.
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 23, 2010 19:33:16 GMT
They are excellent films. I'm not sure where the banner signals are on the Met Railway film though. I didn't see any. There were upper quadrant semaphores as far as Neasden and then Wembley Park and beyond shows lower quadrant semaphores. Odd that, except that I suspect it was the southern section that had automatic signalling with trainstops and the lower quadrant areas were old mechanical block signalling boxes.
And yes, I did notice the double-ended motor car. This was one of two converted in 1910 from two saloon cars that got damaged. It must have been filmed quite soon after its conversion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 19:45:07 GMT
They are excellent films. I'm not sure where the banner signals are on the Met Railway film though. I didn't see any. There were upper quadrant semaphores as far as Neasden and then Wembley Park and beyond shows lower quadrant semaphores. Odd that, except that I suspect it was the southern section that had automatic signalling with trainstops and the lower quadrant areas were old mechanical block signalling boxes. And yes, I did notice the double-ended motor car. This was one of two converted in 1910 from two saloon cars that got damaged. It must have been filmed quite soon after its conversion. I think the banner signals are at St.Johns Wood and Swiss Cottage half way along the platform under the footbridge in both cases.
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 23, 2010 20:00:26 GMT
They are excellent films. I'm not sure where the banner signals are on the Met Railway film though. I didn't see any. There were upper quadrant semaphores as far as Neasden and then Wembley Park and beyond shows lower quadrant semaphores. Odd that, except that I suspect it was the southern section that had automatic signalling with trainstops and the lower quadrant areas were old mechanical block signalling boxes. And yes, I did notice the double-ended motor car. This was one of two converted in 1910 from two saloon cars that got damaged. It must have been filmed quite soon after its conversion. I think the banner signals are at St.Johns Wood and Swiss Cottage half way along the platform under the footbridge in both cases. OK, got the one at St Johns Wood Road anyway. Couldn't see one at Swiss Cottage.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 20:05:35 GMT
I think the banner signals are at St.Johns Wood and Swiss Cottage half way along the platform under the footbridge in both cases. OK, got the one at St Johns Wood Road anyway. Couldn't see one at Swiss Cottage. Whoops, my mistake . Its at Malboro Road at 01:24.
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 23, 2010 21:13:17 GMT
Difficult to see. I thought it was the clock! It was actually RA13.
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Post by metman on Jan 24, 2010 1:58:35 GMT
Yes, they were at Marlboro' Rd and St Johns Wood. The two double ended cars were I believe built to run the lightly used Uxbridge Services. I suppose there was nothing to stop them running with the other saloon trailers although one of them (the 1905 car) had BWE equipment and the other (1906 car) had BTH equipment.
The cars in shot were also shown pre central door conversion. Truely a great video! Pre Dreadnought (just) and T stock operation, a great early electric Met insight.
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Post by tubeprune on Jan 24, 2010 7:12:49 GMT
I'm sure I've seen more Met Rly clips from the same era in the film about Metroland made by the BBC with the late John Betjamin. Does anyone else remember this?
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 24, 2010 8:51:39 GMT
Yes - I've got it on some form of machine readable media somewhere - I do remember some sequences being cut in.
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Post by metman on Jan 24, 2010 10:39:55 GMT
The 1972 version certainly includes a few clips from this 1910 film. The saloon stock leaving Baker Street, Views of Pinner and Chorleywood and the fast train racing through Aylesbury spring to mind!
There are some interesting views in the 1972 film itself, especially the redundent pointwork at Harrow with the remains of the goods yard and sidings.
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Post by Phil on Jan 24, 2010 12:39:55 GMT
The amazing thing (once you realize it.....) is the quality of the film even once you leave the 4-rail section. If the Met didn't have a diesel inspection car this must have been taken from a steamer. So did they propel an inspection car the whole length of the line, or was it one of those where the poor cameraman was in a little box on the front of the loco?? Fascinating either way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2010 17:27:00 GMT
Also, an excellent insight into fashions, trends and traits, and even advertising styles of the early 20th Century.
I've seen excerpts from this, both on the net and on the Metroland DVD.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 24, 2010 18:55:44 GMT
I have a suspicion that the traffic notice detailing this film will turn up one day.
I also think that looking at the ride quality that this must have been filmed from a bogie vehicle - I wonder what?
trundles off to read Snowdon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 18:30:38 GMT
Finally got round to watching this. What a fantastic insight into pre-first war railways! There are some remarkable sights on this. Third rail adjacent to platforms, immaculate ballast shoulders, all of that superb freight stock in sidings, the MET saloon car mentioned above operating in a three car (model that and you'd be told off!), 'Mayflower' or Galatea' sat in the sidings south of Aylesbury and what looks like a GWR steam railmotor north of the station.
I was struck by the almost complete lack of trains approaching on the opposite line. I can only imagine that these were edited out to avoid scaring cinema goers of the time into thinking that trains were going to burst out of the screen towards them. I was just thinking that the film would be perfect if a GCR 'Jersey Lilly' was to head the other way on an 'up' express when, right at the end, there it was! Fantastic!
Manna from heaven!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2010 23:33:18 GMT
Is there any way to get this in full on DVD?
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Post by metman on Apr 3, 2010 0:53:44 GMT
Finally got round to watching this. What a fantastic insight into pre-first war railways! There are some remarkable sights on this. Third rail adjacent to platforms, immaculate ballast shoulders, all of that superb freight stock in sidings, the MET saloon car mentioned above operating in a three car (model that and you'd be told off!), 'Mayflower' or Galatea' sat in the sidings south of Aylesbury and what looks like a GWR steam railmotor north of the station. I was struck by the almost complete lack of trains approaching on the opposite line. I can only imagine that these were edited out to avoid scaring cinema goers of the time into thinking that trains were going to burst out of the screen towards them. I was just thinking that the film would be perfect if a GCR 'Jersey Lilly' was to head the other way on an 'up' express when, right at the end, there it was! Fantastic! Manna from heaven! I might make a double ended comp motor! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2010 10:44:33 GMT
Is there any way to get this in full on DVD? I have tried asking LTM but no reply yet..........
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 29, 2010 15:43:16 GMT
Being new to this forum I have just discovered this gem. I would love to watch it side by side with a modern film of the same journey(s).
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