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Post by cso on Jan 17, 2010 11:57:44 GMT
On the Jubilee line, I've noticed something quirky with the train announcements... my house-mate reckons he has worked out why, but we don't know if it's correct so hoping the knowledgeable people here might be able to confirm / deny... not that I'll give you his theory until after On the train announcements, if the train is terminating at Stanmore, or Stratford (the ones I usually here...) then the announcement is made in the standard voice. "This train terminates at Stanmore" for example. However, if it terminates at Canons Park or West Ham, (the other two I usually here) then there's an inflection at the end so... 'This train terminates at' is in the usual voice, but 'West Ham' or 'Canons Park' is said in a slightly different, higher tone - but it's reasonably hard to describe through the medium of words! Does anyone know why this is? Also, additionally, sometimes at Wembley, the 'This train terminates here. All change' type announcement is sometimes a ladies voice, and other times a man's voice (and it's the same man each time I hear it which makes me think it's recorded!) - any reason for the different messages? Cheers Colin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 13:36:26 GMT
I know what you mean. The best one is "This train terminates at: Neeeeeeasden". It is a different voice to the one that announces the stations along the route. Those announcements did used to use this voice too. Maybe it just hasn't been updated. In any case the convention now seems to be "This is a [-] line train to [destination]" so probably won't be long before it's changed to that.
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 17, 2010 13:40:01 GMT
I'm guessing it's because
"This train terminates at Stanmore" is recorded as one, whereas other less used points are recorded as "This train terminates at <snip>" and "West Ham" (as used in "The next station is <insert station name>".
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Post by Alight on Jan 17, 2010 14:15:23 GMT
I'm here to the rescue! The Jubilee line is unusual in the fact it has 3 different voice-over artists present in the recordings: 1) Anita 2) Celia 3) The man Anita is the original person used to record the announcements. In around 2004, Celia replaced some of her announcements i.e. the ones that go "This station is Canary Wharf. Change here for the DLR" but Anita remained reading out the terminus i.e. "This train terminates at Stratford" As for the man, he has always been present but is only used for the manually selected announcements which are selected by the train operator. For instance "All change please. This train will now terminate here. All change please". This is why you never hear him consistently because it is up to the train operator whether they want to use him or not. Therefore Anita voices all terminus announcements; "This train terminates at Stanmore" is read by the same person as "This train terminates at Canons Park" and so on. In regards to how to describe her in words, she is definately more posh than Celia, especially when you hear her say "North Greenwich!" The following YouTube clip demonstrates this: . The recordings heard in this video are also all the originals i.e. the days before Celia, hence it is consistently Anita throughout. Hope this is of interest! Hope this helps!
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jan 17, 2010 15:05:02 GMT
Still, theres no explanation for why some words are exaggerated eg North Greenwich, West Hampstead
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Post by carlovel1 on Jan 17, 2010 18:16:24 GMT
Love Jubillee Line announcements Have a listen below
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 17, 2010 20:51:24 GMT
Hmmmm, the man has some authority to his voice, though perhaps a bit shouty?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 21:03:31 GMT
"The Man" always sounds like a BBC news announcer from old TV clips from the 1950s !
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 17, 2010 21:33:13 GMT
hehe, "This is the BBC, the next station will be Stratford".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2010 22:08:04 GMT
Could be worse. Just imagine Rowley Birkin QC off The Fast Show doing them.
"HA! This train terminates at ferddeferdahhaah.....I'm afraid I was very drunk...."
Although this would, of course, mean one consistent announcement for the entire network.
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Post by cso on Jan 18, 2010 12:12:10 GMT
Well, my housemate's theory was more that people would expect trains to terminate at Stanmore and Stratford, so the other stations were said differently to make people notice that something had changed and that the train wasn't going to the 'end'...
Thanks for the info all - it's much appreciated!
Colin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 16:46:48 GMT
I think the latter would be a wise theory: to use a different voice for non-usual announcements!
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Post by djlynch on Jan 18, 2010 17:57:38 GMT
I think the latter would be a wise theory: to use a different voice for non-usual announcements! I think that's why the "all change" announcement is a male voice. If you tune out the standard DVA as worthless background noise, the different voice should get your attention. New York has something similar with the DVAs in their newer Subway trains. Most stations and transfers are announced by a woman's voice, starting well before reaching the station so that it can complete before the doors open. The "this train ends here" announcement was in a male voice, started later relative to arrival at the platform, and was significantly longer.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jan 18, 2010 18:27:01 GMT
I think the latter would be a wise theory: to use a different voice for non-usual announcements! I think that's why the "all change" announcement is a male voice. If you tune out the standard DVA as worthless background noise, the different voice should get your attention. New York has something similar with the DVAs in their newer Subway trains. Most stations and transfers are announced by a woman's voice, starting well before reaching the station so that it can complete before the doors open. The "this train ends here" announcement was in a male voice, started later relative to arrival at the platform, and was significantly longer. Yes - the male announcer is also used for "Stand clear of the closing doors please"
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Post by superteacher on Jan 18, 2010 21:02:11 GMT
I always think "Anita" sounds like The Queen!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 12:30:18 GMT
Have always had my own theory with these too! Often wonder if when they were orgionally set up, as with current other operators - they are tasked to record a standard set of announcements based on the particular current timetable at that moment in time. Have noticed this with several operators now in that somebody along the line realises that "hang on, we've got a diversion/short running or other problem with the route" which means that the standard set wont apply to the new alterations. Hence we then end up with a "patch" being made to the origional and everything falls out of place. One problem i've found is that of trying to record additionals and trying to get them to sound the same - 9 times out of ten it proves very dificult and the result quite often makes a complete hash of everything. Cutting and pasting is a fine art, get it right and it sounds very good. Get it wrong and it stands out a mile!!!
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