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Post by towerman on Jan 15, 2010 23:42:37 GMT
Due to work on Plat1 Baker St on 1st to 5th February there will be a reduced peak service on the Uxbridge branch and off peak Amershams will terminate at Wembley Pk. The same will happen on 8th to 12th & 15th to 19th but the work will be on Plats 3 & 4.
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Post by Ben on Jan 18, 2010 19:49:52 GMT
So Baker Street is remaining 4 platforms then for the Met (in the eventual grand scheme of things)?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2010 20:35:13 GMT
Due to work on Plat1 Baker St on 1st to 5th February there will be a reduced peak service on the Uxbridge branch and off peak Amershams will terminate at Wembley Pk. The same will happen on 8th to 12th & 15th to 19th but the work will be on Plats 3 & 4. Work actually starts next weekend and the altered service applies Mon 25th Jan to Fri 5th Feb for platform 1 and then again from Mon 8th Feb to Fri 19th Feb for platform 4. Offpeak Amershams start/finish at Wembley Park with the Watford service using the bay that is still available. Uxbridge service unaffected. Peak Uxbridge service reduced by 1 train every 16 minutes with a corresponding Watford fast making the stops. The through city service generally unaffected. 4 less trains required in service, all being interpeak stablers. Edit: The second fortnight should have said platform 4 blocked with platform 3 non stopped.
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Post by cso on Jan 27, 2010 12:26:50 GMT
Would this be the 'temporary timetable changes' which my mate saw advertisied at Watford - a Watford fast doing all stations?
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Post by citysig on Jan 27, 2010 23:10:59 GMT
So Baker Street is remaining 4 platforms then for the Met (in the eventual grand scheme of things)? Yes, but without the facility to reverse south to north from platform 3 - which means in the event of a shutdown in the city, any train already in platform 3 will have to stay there until things begin to move (or will have to shunt via the outer-rail shunt to the east of the station). This is being communicated as a "temporary" new layout, but given the scale of the track alterations surrounding the extended platforms, I doubt the pointwork to enable the reversing move will ever be re-instated.
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Post by citysig on Jan 27, 2010 23:11:19 GMT
Would this be the 'temporary timetable changes' which my mate saw advertisied at Watford - a Watford fast doing all stations? In a word, yes.
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Post by metman on Jan 27, 2010 23:25:57 GMT
There are quite a few trains that use platform 3 to reverse North at the end of service if I remember. These are mostly Wembleys, but I think the last Chesham leaves platform 3 Mon-Fri? Can the other platforms cope?
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Post by Harsig on Jan 28, 2010 8:53:16 GMT
There are quite a few trains that use platform 3 to reverse North at the end of service if I remember. These are mostly Wembleys, but I think the last Chesham leaves platform 3 Mon-Fri? Can the other platforms cope? I'm afraid you're out of date. One of the specific alterations made to the timetable last December was that no trains would be scheduled to reverse in platform three.
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Post by metman on Jan 28, 2010 17:58:26 GMT
Ah, so it's less of a problem then, however, in times of disruption it's still good to reverse from platform 3, especially if there is a problem in the City and Uxbridge trains are still pouring out through platform two!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2010 20:17:15 GMT
Poster seen today at Rickmansworth states that Baker Street stage 2 postponed until further notice and also rumours that stage 1 now overrunning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2010 22:52:57 GMT
That's interesting. Went to Baker Street today to take a couple of pictures of plats 1/2 across from 3/4, which I did.
With the service in total disarray at midday time (earlier signal failure at Barbican with Met City service suspended, followed by a fire alert Finchley Road - Baker Street and thus no service south of Wembley Park), there was a train in platform 3 that was waiting to reverse, which it eventually did (not "scheduled" of course since the 13/12/09 WTT). I thought a photo of this leaving might have been "one of the last [unscheduled] platform 3 reversers" but if the work has been delayed as suggested, then it might not be "one of the last" after all. Never mind !
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Post by metman on Feb 6, 2010 1:16:39 GMT
Very interesting, this has all been posted. I was caught in the chaos this morning made me 40 mins late to my meeting. I bumped into a good friend in the pub tonight who informed me that industrial action by workers is the cause of the delays to work. Shift changes etc being the cause of the strike! He choose not to go on the picket line at Baker Street but to go to the pub insteed- can't blame him really!
Works on the end of plats 1-2 is going ok, although I notice the current rails have been pulled shy of the buffers (not train arrestors [sounds like chav rolling stock] today).
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Post by citysig on Feb 6, 2010 9:17:03 GMT
The works were very slightly over-running, and could have been completed with all guns blazing. However, the aforementioned industrial action has put the mockers on quite a bit of engineering work this weekend, including the completion of platform 1.
The rescheduling needed to allow the works to begin on platforms 3 & 4 (not least a road closure outside the station) may mean it is several weeks before the planned closure of these platforms can be carried out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 16:57:16 GMT
Can it be confirmed, please, that platform 1 is still closed today and trains are stopping normally in 3 and 4.
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Post by citysig on Feb 8, 2010 17:49:10 GMT
Can it be confirmed, please, that platform 1 is still closed today and trains are stopping normally in 3 and 4. Yes - and it will stay that way for at least this week. And as I was the controller who would have allowed the withdrawal of one possession and the introduction of another, I should know ;D From looking on the CCTV, platform 1 is near completion (it was being swept, mopped and polished last night ;D ) and I think the only thing holding things up now is installation of platform end barriers and the official "signing off" of the works. There have been the usual rumours kicking around. Like the classic "Trains can't use it as the platform has been built wrong" but these, as far as I know, are a figment of someone's imagination. If it was wrong, then why they spent time putting some current rail back would seem a very silly move if they've got to start all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2010 19:11:29 GMT
Many thanks!
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Post by Bighat on Feb 8, 2010 20:45:14 GMT
Can it be confirmed, please, that platform 1 is still closed today and trains are stopping normally in 3 and 4. So confirmed (on my way back from photting the 72ts movement from Stonebridge Park to Ealing Common depots).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 17:59:02 GMT
I see that this weekends closure has been revised from Finchley Rd-Aldgate to Baker St-Aldgate. As the Hammersmith branch services are reversing westbound-eastbound, presumably off platform 6 (westbound/inner rail), I assume that the junction just east of Baker St is out. Would I be correct in understanding previous posts in that both bays are available, with platform 1 works completed and platform 4 works not yet started due to issues with road closures. If this is the case, will some trains be reversing off the through platforms, and if so, which ones? Thanks in advance.
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Post by Harsig on Feb 17, 2010 18:42:28 GMT
I see that this weekends closure has been revised from Finchley Rd-Aldgate to Baker St-Aldgate. As the Hammersmith branch services are reversing westbound-eastbound, presumably off platform 6 (westbound/inner rail), I assume that the junction just east of Baker St is out. Would I be correct in understanding previous posts in that both bays are available, with platform 1 works completed and platform 4 works not yet started due to issues with road closures. If this is the case, will some trains be reversing off the through platforms, and if so, which ones? Thanks in advance. The planned weekend possession at Baker Street has been cancelled. Unfortunately there was insufficient notice to allow the full Met weekend service to be re-instated and thus the planned temporary timetable will operate instead. However it has been determined that there was just enough turn around time in this timetable for the trains from Watford and Uxbridge to be extended to Baker Street and return north to pick up their booked workings. This will be done on an ad-hoc basis on the day and it is therefore impossible to say with certainty which platforms will be used at Baker St for reversing except that they will definitely not be using platform 1 as this remains out of use and will continue to be so next week as well, meaning that the current weekday alterations will continue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 20:01:53 GMT
Baker Street platform 1 is on for start of traffic on Sun 28th Feb with platform 4 postponed UFN. Just as well as Aldgate platforms 2 and 3 are due for closure Mon - Fri 1st to 5th Mar. Mets turning at Moorgate and Circles non stopping.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2010 21:02:27 GMT
Thanks, Harsig, a decent chance of my required crossover into platform 2 then, as I should imagine that with with both Watfords and Uxbridges running into Baker St, 2 platforms will be required. Thanks LNWR electric for the clarification on bay closures.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2010 14:10:12 GMT
Baker Street platform 1 is on for start of traffic on Sun 28th Feb with platform 4 postponed UFN. Just as well as Aldgate platforms 2 and 3 are due for closure Mon - Fri 1st to 5th Mar. Mets turning at Moorgate and Circles non stopping. The second phase at Baker Street is now on for Saturday 3rd July to Sunday 27th July. Finally seeing platform 4 extended and the end of reversals on platform 3.
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