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Post by 21146 on Jan 13, 2010 17:12:55 GMT
Definately not! It is these R/S doors that keep the scum in the other car and not in yours! Yes, they'll be no escaping anti-social behaviour come the S Stock.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 13, 2010 18:10:05 GMT
If the legal system required that people take responsibility for themselves and any injuries they cause themselves, then things would be different. I shall not got any further here, as I don't wish to turn this thread into another rant about the health and safety culture. It does, to a certain extent. The word "reasonable" is usually in there - e.g. did the company take reasonable safeguards to ensure that x didn't happen? It depends on how wide a margin the person doing the risk assessment uses.
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Post by SE13 on Jan 13, 2010 18:29:53 GMT
Definately not! It is these R/S doors that keep the scum in the other car and not in yours! Yes, they'll be no escaping anti-social behaviour come the S Stock. Same applies on NR though...... They have been walk through for years.
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Post by 1938 on Jan 13, 2010 20:55:27 GMT
Definately not! It is these R/S doors that keep the scum in the other car and not in yours! Yes, they'll be no escaping anti-social behaviour come the S Stock. I think metman is fully aware of his S Stock fate, are you trying to wind him up?? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by 21146 on Jan 14, 2010 17:58:27 GMT
Yes, they'll be no escaping anti-social behaviour come the S Stock. Same applies on NR though...... They have been walk through for years. At least on NR there are a pair of doors and corridor connection between carriages. On the class 378 (as an example), you practically have to walk the entire length of the unit to escape anti-social behaviour.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 14, 2010 18:10:38 GMT
Same applies on NR though...... They have been walk through for years. At least on NR there are a pair of doors and corridor connection between carriages. On the class 378 (as an example), you practically have to walk the entire length of the unit to escape anti-social behaviour. Not always, I refer the Hon. Member to Pacers.
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Post by plasmid on Jan 15, 2010 13:55:25 GMT
The doors are dangerous full stop. I was on a District line train sitting at the end of the carriage, the door was shut and whilst the train was in motion some silly bi**h coming from the other carriage opened the door which cracked me on my foot. Piffle! You were not expecting it to happen, and as is the wont of modern society you would like to apportion blame. The new S stock will solve this as we all know but the problem will remain for the deep level tube stock. Did you have a bad experience with a hinged door as a child - or are all doors sliding in your home? The doors aren't dangerous per se - what is dangerous is the generations of people who expect every eventuality to be explained to them! It's not really your fault for thinking that, I suppose you don't know any better. ;D My opinions are just that...my opinion. And what does my childhood have anything to do with this topic? Edited by SE13 to remove the personal insult.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 15, 2010 14:50:08 GMT
Piffle! You were not expecting it to happen, and as is the wont of modern society you would like to apportion blame. Did you have a bad experience with a hinged door as a child - or are all doors sliding in your home? The doors aren't dangerous per se - what is dangerous is the generations of people who expect every eventuality to be explained to them! It's not really your fault for thinking that, I suppose you don't know any better. ;D My opinions are just that...my opinion. And what does my childhood have anything to do with this topic? **EDITED** I think MRFS' comment was a little tounge in cheek (c.f. the emoticons) - however, please don't let this degrade into personal insults.
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Post by 1938 on Jan 15, 2010 15:51:23 GMT
Is there not a clause somewhere saying safety shoes should be worn at all times by customers standing or sitting adjacent to the inter- connecting door. ;D
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Post by slugabed on Jan 15, 2010 16:48:01 GMT
Perhaps these doors could be fitted with one of those "self-closing" devices (usually a stout-spring-and-damper-type mechanism)?
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Post by 1938 on Jan 15, 2010 17:07:36 GMT
Perhaps these doors could be fitted with one of those "self-closing" devices (usually a stout-spring-and-damper-type mechanism)? The cost of installing these on every train with the ongoing regular checks and maintenance insisted on by H&S would far outweigh the benefits.
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