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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 15:24:55 GMT
News just in! My mate just called me to say his Met train to Harrow has just taken a wrong stick and preceeded down the line towards South Harrow!
They are stuck just beyond Rayners Lane junction now! Will the train be able to reverse up the line into the Uxbridge platform or will it have to do to South Harrow to reverse?
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Post by ruislip on Dec 5, 2009 16:58:05 GMT
That probably explains the "signal failure" that was mentioned on the TFL departure boards for the Met and Picc.
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Post by Chris M on Dec 5, 2009 17:08:32 GMT
Can trains reverse east to west at South Harrow?
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 5, 2009 17:21:04 GMT
Yes, via WV 7 and 15 IIRC.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 17:32:57 GMT
South Harrow is a Picc, District and Met line station now ;D ;D
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 17:32:59 GMT
I have been told that the train was able to reverse back into Rayners Lane, 90 mins later!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 17:42:36 GMT
Yes, via WV 7 and 15 IIRC. The Mets can't. The Picc said we couldn't do that due to width and weight restrictions. The spring toggle points and 11 pts were secured and a wrong direction move back into the platform at Rayners was done. Only the Piccs were affected as the rear of the train was clear of the junction. |
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 5, 2009 17:49:05 GMT
Aha! The 'A' stock are plump old birds compared to the sleek '73 stock. ;D
(runs away very quickly before metman thumps me)
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Post by setttt on Dec 5, 2009 18:27:31 GMT
Yes, via WV 7 and 15 IIRC. The Mets can't. The Picc said we couldn't do that due to width and weight restrictions. Strange - is this a new thing or does it only apply to the aforementioned shunt move? A Stock has to go that way to access the test track at South Ealing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 18:34:27 GMT
As hard as we tried, the Picc said no. I can't see it being a weight issue as we have ballast trains run that way, probably more to do with the width of the A60. It was news to us that it couldn't got to South Harrow, but it got dealt with anyway.
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 18:48:55 GMT
Mrf, you're ok! They are wide, the widest in Britain. I don't mind, its the only way to fit in 3+2 seating! D78 can reverse at Sth Harrow right?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 19:01:20 GMT
Mrf, you're ok! They are wide, the widest in Britain. I don't mind, its the only way to fit in 3+2 seating! D78 can reverse at Sth Harrow right? Yes D stock can reverse at South Harrow. I've done that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 19:04:06 GMT
Us children of the early sixties are all suffering from a bit of middle age spread these days..... ;D
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 19:33:59 GMT
Sadly so am I!  |
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 5, 2009 19:48:22 GMT
That's too much chocolate pudding!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 19:49:23 GMT
......At speed!
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 5, 2009 20:00:25 GMT
We'll have to time metman next time! |
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 20:26:09 GMT
I have no come back sadly, as alas, I have just eaten Chocolate Pudding! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 20:36:33 GMT
I was actually meant to be on duty there at that time!
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 20:54:07 GMT
Shame you weren't! ;D
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Post by tubeprune on Dec 5, 2009 21:28:04 GMT
A Stock used to go to and from Acton Works down the S Harrow route. I'm sure they still can but I don't suppose anyone could authorise it at an operating level without a full risk analysis, several tool box conferences, counselling by the HR department, medical assssments and a possession. Cynical? Moi??
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 5, 2009 21:56:40 GMT
I have been told that the train was able to reverse back into Rayners Lane, 90 mins later! I was on this train! It was actually only about 50 minutes later (it left Rayners Lane at about 3:10 and was reversed back into the station just before 4:00). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 22:25:33 GMT
The delay booked to the customers was 49 minutes. That was the actual delay in them getting to West Harrow. All in all, I think it took about 42 minutes in total to get the train back to Rayners.
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Post by metman on Dec 5, 2009 23:00:07 GMT
My mate was being a drama queen clearly!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 23:01:24 GMT
I suppose the minutes felt long.. :/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2009 0:59:31 GMT
Of course, we never make this mistake on the national network......   ;D |
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Post by happybunny on Dec 6, 2009 1:19:16 GMT
If it couldn't have reversed at S.Harrow via mainline shunt, couldn't it have gone via the sidings?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2009 1:31:11 GMT
The Mets can't. The Picc said we couldn't do that due to width and weight restrictions. Perhaps you should pin a healthy chunk of the delay on the Piccadilly then ? The List of approved and authorised running routes shows, on Page 23, that A60 and A62 stock are approved to operate between Rayners Lane and Hanger Lane Junction (excluding South Harrow Sidings) in Passenger Service but with a speed restriction of 15mph under bridges D4 (Between South Harrow and Sudbury Hill both roads) , D24 (Between Park Royal and North Ealing boath roads) and D62 (Acton Town Stn w/b fast). Tube Lines are contractually obligated to keep the route maintained accordingly. No special authority would have been required at all, it exists as standard !! Poor show by the Piccadilly and much more disruption than there need have been ! |
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Post by 21146 on Dec 6, 2009 5:46:50 GMT
If it couldn't have reversed at S.Harrow via mainline shunt, couldn't it have gone via the sidings? I think the sidings aren't long enough, and presumably the totally uneccesary T/OP "boarding platforms" would be out-of-gauge for A Stock anyway? |
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Post by 21146 on Dec 6, 2009 5:48:38 GMT
The Picc wanted send reverse a D Stock at Boston Manor a few weeks' back until I pointed out they're no longer permitted west of Northfields.
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