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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 11:13:31 GMT
I was on a w/b train and as we left Bond Street the train was very jerky and then came to a sudden halt in the tunnel.....mass groans from passengers who assumed we had broken down.
The driver then came on the PA and said somebody was trying to force the doors open and such actions could have serious consequences, he then suggested that if anybody can see who is doing it that they take "whatever action they consider neccesary to preserve passengers safey", anyway we continued without further problems.
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Post by superteacher on Nov 29, 2009 13:05:39 GMT
The 1992 stock doors do come open very easily (if only slightly) if people lean on them, particularly when the train is accelerating or braking. This leads to the motors cutting out, which is the jerky ride you mentioned. If the door contacts are broken for any length of time, then the train will be stopped completely.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 17:11:51 GMT
That pleasant jerking sensation is the motors dropping out, inconjunction with the door proving circuit being interupted (pilot light being lost).
I would assume, as it was busy on the Central yesterday, the driver either had lots of minor losses of the pilot light, and the driver wanted to making point, or there was a longer than normal loss to which the train was assisted to stop out of ATO.
All of this is normal for the Central line.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 18:39:24 GMT
The train was very busy as most are at weekends with all the other closures and it could well have been somebody leaning on the door, I couldn't understand why somebody would have been trying to force the doors open but then again there is no accounting for what some passengers will do!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 21:46:55 GMT
It's not an uncommon occurence... After two 'incidents' in quick succession, I am known to remind the passengers that, if it continues, I will remove the train from service, quite legitimately for a door defect. After all, I can't exacty see whats happening to the door itself; all I get is a warning. [loss of pilot light] Strangely, after a firm reminder, no further incidents occur.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2009 23:20:42 GMT
Yes spoken like a true train operator! Normally I can be found cursing in the cab after the 100th time, be mindful that the PA's not on...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2009 20:29:52 GMT
(...) Strangely, after a firm reminder, no further incidents occur. As you say, extremely strange !
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Post by plasmid on Dec 8, 2009 11:10:14 GMT
Yes please do try to remember to turn the PA off...the amount of times that it's been left on whilst travelling though the tunnels is purely annoying.
We can already hear the train travelling through the tunnels, we don't want that sound enhanced by the bose surround sound speakers giving a deafening experience.
I was on a 92ts once when the cab operator said he would take the train out of service due to people leaning heavily on the doors, also mentioned that he had '2 of 3' blue lights appear on his dash and that if there was a 3rd he would take the train out of service. Then the train proceeded as normal.
To be fair this issue with the doors happens when the trains aren't busy as well. Perhaps it's because the equipment that opens the doors etc have been battered from all the constant heavy leaning that passengers do.
You can't expect people not to lean on the doors, when the train is crammed often you cannot reach any of the handles. I lean on the doors though it gives me a neck ache after 5 minutes. It's not always passengers leaning but items such as bags or jackets getting caught inbetween the doors. The doors can be open an inch yet the train will still proceed as normal until the next stop.
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