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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 9:02:29 GMT
I was on a D stock yesterday and noticed that one of the priority seats had a distinctive back cushion - with the "Priority Seat" logo on it. I have not noticed it on any other seats yet.
Are these being brought in or are they in fact disappearing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 9:58:47 GMT
I believe there is currently one unit with these, as a trial, and they are different on each of the three cars in that unit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 13:28:16 GMT
I believe there is currently one unit with these, as a trial, and they are different on each of the three cars in that unit. Two units in fact, six different designs ! (Hopefully the plan will not be adopted !) I think we had pictures of all the designs on an earlier thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 13:33:22 GMT
Today I was "blessed" with both the Refurb D stocks with "experimental" features ! 7028 with it's forward camera and ... 7019, 17019 and 8019 with what I assume to be experimental seat moquette highlighting the priority seating, first mentioned by TrainOp78 in the (lengthy) refurbs thread. (I assume experimental as all three cars were different.) I forget where I first saw this idea, was it someone here who posted a picture or link to a oriental aisan train with it. In that case it was a bright yellow moquette. Each of the three cars have a different variant, pictures posted below. I must say, i wasn't exactly keen on any of them. They look ok on the single seat (pictured) but they seem to have made more seats "priority" in the longitudinal blocks, the moquette stood out on them as a bit of an eyesore. At first glance I thought the seats had been damaged. I suppose the point is to make them stand out, but they didn't really fit the ambience. I think I'd have been tempted to have them in a completely different but complimentary colour. It also highlights that the seat covers aren't on straight, which isn't obvious on a normal patterned seat !!! I had thought it a good idea when I first heard it, but I'm not so sure now, besides there is no actual obligation to give up a seat and in any event the seat pattern is covered up when you are sitting on it (whilst a sticker is not). Either way "jury is out" for me as to which I like best. I think I'd have prefered the dark green pattern from 7019 but not in the blue square, it "jars" a little less than the other two. The bright green was better than the orange which doesn't compliment any of the other colours of a Refurb D. I'd have posted a "vote" if I'd known how, to see what you lot think ! (bare in mind they do look better on the single seats than in a row of seats) Anyhow here are the pictures I took, enjoy : 7019 dark green in a blue box.  17019 bright green in pattern  8019 orange in pattern  Views ? Like you lot need encouraging ! ;D ;D  |
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 9, 2008 14:47:45 GMT
Maybe its me, but this is a sad reflection on society that we have to label seats. People being selfish and not giving up their seat etc, so we have to tell them. The people who this is aimed at [inconsiderate ones] wont flick an eyelid at it.
Arent all seats a priority to one extent or the other?
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Post by Chris M on Apr 9, 2008 15:07:00 GMT
It should just be a condition of carriage that you give up your seat for someone who needs it more than you do. Regardless of which seat it is, or why the other person needs it more than you do.
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Post by version3point1 on Apr 9, 2008 15:48:44 GMT
I agree with Tubeboy and Chris M here. They have started bringing in new decals on the A stock recently:  I can't believe people actually need more clarification as to who qualifies for a seat. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 18:12:26 GMT
C stock have also acquired these decals recently. Considering that some people think that their bag needs a seat of its own, it is an uphill struggle!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2008 20:51:23 GMT
Yes - bags on seats - now, that does annoy me - there was a pillock I was at school with who advocated that one.
I sometimes really need a seat - not having real feet it can sometimes be difficult - but I often manage and bide my time.
Most of the "Priority" seats are by glass partitions - I actually prefer to be mid-row, and not right in the middle on 95-6TS either.
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Post by Colin on Apr 9, 2008 21:02:09 GMT
I suspect the reason seats near doors are highlighted has more to do with legislation than anything else (Disabled persons Advisory Council, Disabillity Discrimination Act, Rail Vehicle Accessibility Regulations, etc, etc)..........
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2008 10:29:49 GMT
Sadly people do need this pointing out to them. When I was suffering from a disabling health problem I didn't hesitate to ask for a seat - rather than singling anyone out I used to ask of the carriage in general if someone could let me sit down, I used a walking stick so it should have been pretty obvious that I needed a seat. If I didn't get to sit down I would fall as soon as the train moved (I had a balance disorder) so I really, really did need to sit. The ones who barge past you, nearly knocking you flying in the process, in order to get on the train and take the last available seat used to really annoy me.
I remember being heavily pregnant, and on crutches, and still having to ASK if someone could let me sit down on the bus because no-one offered their seat. Now I am returned to full health I don't hesitate to offer my seat to someone who looks like they need it more than me, whether I'm in the priority seat or not. As I always did before. And, when I'm travelling with my daughter, if the bus/train is crowded I always insist she either sits on my knee (although she's getting a bit heavy for that!) or stands to let someone else sit down.
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Post by 21146 on Apr 26, 2008 19:42:46 GMT
They'e even putting "priority seat" stickers on station benches at places like Chesham where I doubt every space has been occupied since the 1940s! This also includes classic New Works tube stations were the recessed benches are being complimented by extra seats, despite the far more frequent off-peak services which mean these are hardly neccesary. This is PC-gone mad...
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Post by Tomcakes on Apr 26, 2008 20:38:08 GMT
I frequently remember from a young age being taught to stand up in order that other people could stand. Mind you, these days I often see young children sitting on seats on their own whilst there are standees, on buses and trains.
I still stand up for OAPs etc, especially on a crowded bus I much prefer to be standing than sitting down surrounded by standees.
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Post by metman on Apr 27, 2008 0:47:10 GMT
I frequently remember from a young age being taught to stand up in order that other people could stand. I still stand up for OAPs etc, especially on a crowded bus I much prefer to be standing than sitting down surrounded by standees. I know I'm a few years older than you but it was always something my Grandma made me do as a child! I've noticed priority seats appearing on station benches! Has it got that bad...... |
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