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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2010 9:53:13 GMT
When I was on the ELL, if someone got a bag, case, etc, caught in the doors, you could open the doors a fraction, long enough for the item to be removed, then close them immediately, losing just a few seconds. On the central line, the doors have to open fully, losing a lot more time.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 7, 2010 8:42:52 GMT
Is there a date for the introduction of the new timetable yet?
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Post by d7666 on Mar 7, 2010 15:02:21 GMT
Is there a date for the introduction of the new timetable yet? Yes ... there is a planned date ... I know what this is ... but I'm afraid I can't say any more than that at present. |
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Post by Tom on Mar 13, 2010 23:53:49 GMT
Central Line re-signalling was specified at 35 TPH from the technical viewpoint. That is the figure quoted in contemporary IRSE technical papers, and I am sure if I mine deep enough amid the binders in Wood Lane I could find a specification that states that. Apologies for the bump, but... I've seen the original Central Line resignalling contract, which called for 36tph. It was never achieved and was quickly amended to 33tph. |
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Post by superteacher on Mar 14, 2010 21:23:46 GMT
And now amended to 30tph - they gave up any hopes of 33tph ages ago!
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Post by plasmid on Mar 14, 2010 21:51:33 GMT
sigh. seems we are getting less and less trains with every new timetable.
didn't someone say 29tph with the new timetable and 33tph after a power upgrade in 2011?
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Post by superteacher on Apr 25, 2010 12:13:32 GMT
Sorry to bump this thread - but do we have a date for the new timetable yet?
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Post by auxsetreq on Apr 26, 2010 11:56:00 GMT
So long as there hasn't been another change of plan I've got it pencilled in for Sunday the 4th of July, and the new platform 3a at Stratford for sometime in August
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Post by superteacher on Jun 15, 2010 20:15:39 GMT
WTT 65 definitely starting Sunday 4th July.
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Post by plasmid on Jun 16, 2010 12:58:22 GMT
Any idea of the tph easboung from leytonstone onwards?
Is it less frequency or more than the current WTT??
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Post by littlecog on Jun 16, 2010 18:31:46 GMT
WTT 65 definitely starting Sunday 4th July. Does this include the removal of the Drain service on Saturdays? (I wondered if the delay was due to someone not best pleased having a word with someone not best pleased to have received words.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 19:32:08 GMT
WTT 65 definitely starting Sunday 4th July. Does this include the removal of the Drain service on Saturdays? No, the W&C has its own timetable. |
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 16, 2010 19:38:35 GMT
Does this include the removal of the Drain service on Saturdays? No, the W&C has its own timetable. Yup, but buried in a recent thread here is some oblique reference to changes in the Drain being related to the Central in a black-art arcane style. I can't find it at the mo...... but I'm looking! |
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Post by DWS on Jun 16, 2010 20:45:07 GMT
As the Waterloo & City line was closed on some Saturdays in the last few months for Engineering works. I think a story went around that the Service was being withdrawn
on a permanent basis.
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Post by Chris M on Jun 16, 2010 22:16:31 GMT
No, the W&C has its own timetable. Yup, but buried in a recent thread here is some oblique reference to changes in the Drain being related to the Central in a black-art arcane style. I can't find it at the mo...... but I'm looking! Given that the Central Line provides the drivers for the drain, it would make sense to me for the WTTs to be written with a reference to the other to make sorting out drivers rosters a not impossible task. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2010 6:08:09 GMT
Any idea of the tph easboung from leytonstone onwards? Is it less frequency or more than the current WTT?? 30tph WB 0810-0910 at 2" intervals 29tph EB 1700-1900 at 2-2½" intervals |
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Post by plasmid on Jun 17, 2010 9:16:32 GMT
30tph westbound sounds good for the morning peak.
How many tph westbound are we running now with the current timetable?
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Post by londonstuff on Jun 17, 2010 9:38:16 GMT
What are the main barriers to getting to 36tph or whatever it was originally meant to do? Realistically, what is the maximum, without spending gazillions of pounds?
I suppose that's a question better suited to 'general Q&A' as it could be applicable to any tube line.
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Post by littlecog on Jun 17, 2010 9:45:33 GMT
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 17, 2010 10:04:19 GMT
Yes - indeed it was - thank-you for that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2010 18:19:52 GMT
30tph westbound sounds good for the morning peak. How many tph westbound are we running now with the current timetable? Current peak flow is 30th WB in the morning (0730 - 0900) and 30 tph EB in the evening (1730 - 1830). |
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Post by North End on Jun 17, 2010 19:54:55 GMT
What are the main barriers to getting to 36tph or whatever it was originally meant to do? Realistically, what is the maximum, without spending gazillions of pounds? I suppose that's a question better suited to 'general Q&A' as it could be applicable to any tube line. Regardless of the signalling installed, on LU today station dwell times and driving technique are obstacles to getting a high throughput of trains. |
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Post by superteacher on Jun 17, 2010 19:59:29 GMT
What are the main barriers to getting to 36tph or whatever it was originally meant to do? Realistically, what is the maximum, without spending gazillions of pounds? I suppose that's a question better suited to 'general Q&A' as it could be applicable to any tube line. Regardless of the signalling installed, on LU today station dwell times and driving technique are obstacles to getting a high throughput of trains. The Central line is ATO, so driving techniques are not an issue. Dwell times are though. Having said this, I still can't believe they are only running 29tph eastbound in the evening peak. We are still waiting for the 30tph service both ways from 07:00 to 10:00 and 16:00 to 19:00 - I was told this would happen in 2011. |
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Post by superteacher on Jun 26, 2010 11:54:37 GMT
Some further details from WTT 65:
Off peak service patterns and frequencies are all unchanged daily.
The only changes of note are during the peaks. In addition to what's already been mentioned, the peak "shoulders" are longer, meaning that trains are more frequent before and after the main peak.
Although the eastbound evening peak has been reduced from 30tph to 29tph, this now operates from 17:00 to 19:00. Personally, I can't see why they couldn't just make it 30tph!
There are also a few more trains to West Ruislip and Epping in the peaks, with a slight reduction in Northolt and Debden reversers as a consequence.
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