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Post by happybunny on Sept 10, 2009 21:59:33 GMT
I noticed yesterday that some of the station roundel signs at Ravenscourt Park station simply said 'Ravenscourt' ... no 'Park' ! These similar style roundels are also found at Turnham Green station (they are built into seating benches)... but at Turnham Green station the full station name is used in the sign.
So why at Ravenscourt Park was the name shortened ?
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 10, 2009 22:01:09 GMT
Ordering foul-up, I suspect.
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Post by Ben on Sept 10, 2009 22:17:50 GMT
Indeed. 21146 has a picture of said signs I think on his flickr.
Been there months now. Has it been remedied? No. One would have thought the correct name would be a fundamental for a station.
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Post by abe on Sept 11, 2009 6:43:48 GMT
The latest Underground News has a photo, as well as the rather poor replacement roundels at Stamford Brook - which have themselves been replaced by better (more accurate) signs.
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Post by ruislip on Sept 11, 2009 18:20:15 GMT
Couldn't there be roundels that say Ravenscourt Pk? That IMO is better than incorrect roundels.
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 11, 2009 18:22:16 GMT
That would break the corporate image guff, though!
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Post by happybunny on Sept 12, 2009 20:21:21 GMT
I see... hopefully it will be corrected soon. before people start calling it "Ravenscourt Station"
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Post by roythebus on Sept 14, 2009 6:59:37 GMT
Or Ravenscourt train station...
Train station, YUK. Even the Beeb use it these days. Horror, shock, gasp. What IS this world coming to??
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Post by Phil on Sept 14, 2009 7:27:02 GMT
But that is because we've never got used to the term 'road station'. So buses stop at bus stations, trains stop at train stations. Simplexxx (as they say in the advert)  ...... It's lazy, but consistent (if incorrect to the purist). The BBC died linguistically the day they allowed 'different to' and 'different than' as correct usage. Back on topic, Ravenscourt is not a place, neither in reality nor on any map. So someone will hopefully correct the mistake before long. So let's assume it's for cost-cutting. We'll now end up with the following stations (sensible ones omitted!!):
Belsize; Canons; Elm; Finsbury*; Green; Holland; Moor; Regents*; Tufnell.
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Post by railtechnician on Sept 14, 2009 13:27:28 GMT
Or Ravenscourt train station... Train station, YUK. Even the Beeb use it these days. Horror, shock, gasp. What IS this world coming to?? I am afraid to say that illiteracy and adulteration have been the order of the day for more than a decade probably fuelled predominantly by the use of PCs with US spellcheckers and a growing usage of US English amongst the younger generations. I find it amazing though not unexpected that the country that once led the world in so many ways has lost it's way in almost all of them. British justice and education is more likely to be found in the former colonies than within the UK nowadays while the current administration have presided over the greater demise of a country that is now just another island in a very large cosmopolitan ocean. |
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Post by railtechnician on Sept 14, 2009 13:48:16 GMT
But that is because we've never got used to the term 'road station'. So buses stop at bus stations, trains stop at train stations. [/size][/quote] Well that's neither true nor consistent! Buses stop at 'bus' stops but trains have never stopped at 'train' stops (trainstops notwithstanding). Why isn't an interchange stop known perhaps as a 'relay' station? Why can 'shunt', 'reverse', and 'set back' have both the same and different meanings? Why do people confuse 'where', 'were' and "we're", 'their', 'there' and "they're", 'to', 'too' and 'two', "it's" and its and my special pet misuse seen all too often nowadays, 'your' instead of "you're"? Because it is the Queen's English and the education system in the UK today has been failing to educate to a proper standard for more than 20 years. Some will say that languages evolve, that it is simply evolution and there is evidence to support the argument. Does it matter? Neither the government nor our education system appear to think so and in general terms the establishment follows suit led on by popular newspapers and media who are always willing to create new words from deliberate misspelling for the sake of a story. Its time summat were dun abaht it innit butt know won kezza jot duz they. Aftrall won finga bout inglish is no matta how badits rit wee kans till git da jistof it innit! Asfa stay shun naims eye pre fur Hideous Park two Hyde Park Corner! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2009 18:55:30 GMT
But that is because we've never got used to the term 'road station'. So buses stop at bus stations, trains stop at train stations. [/size][/quote]Why do people confuse 'where', 'were' and "we're", 'their', 'there' and "they're", 'to', 'too' and 'two', "it's" and its and my special pet misuse seen all too often nowadays, 'your' instead of "you're"?[/quote]And, as often seen in the english stories written by my class mates: Here/hair and and/an  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2009 20:41:41 GMT
Being a speaker of Usaish, I have always enjoyed the differences between it and the Queen's English. [I do enjoy my full version of the OED with supplements).
Especially all the extra letters in words (color vs colour, etc).
And the same words with totallly different meanings (bonnet - lady's hat vs. car hood, etc).
And some we don't even know (e.g. Spotted Richard).
I sure hate that Usaish spell checkers on PCs are now dooming us all to speak the same dialect. Bummer, dude!
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Post by Ben on Sept 15, 2009 10:57:18 GMT
Well it wouldn't be that bad if the default seting was International English; ie the spelling used by all other English speaking countries. Its only because silicone valley is in the one country that doesn't conform that its becoming widespread. And its tricky to change every setting to the international one alone. Hmm.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 17:32:38 GMT
Totally off topic now, but Gates and the MS crew are in based in Washington (the state, not the district), not California - although they have plants and offices everywhere - including Silicon Valley.
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Post by Ben on Sept 16, 2009 2:44:53 GMT
Certainly so; was trying to generalise to it being more about the proliferation of US software giants in general. Didnt quite work though!  Back on topic; has this work actually been signed off then? If it has, then why was it not noticed and corrected at the time? Has a job been put in about it? |
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Post by roythebus on Sept 19, 2009 10:17:28 GMT
England and the USA, two countries separated by a common language.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 1, 2009 12:42:51 GMT
The signs here were corrected (with brand new ones again!) yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 14:15:12 GMT
Where did those other signs go? They'll be worth a bit as collectors items!
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Post by Ben on Oct 1, 2009 14:40:47 GMT
I'll be watching ebay |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 1, 2009 17:52:12 GMT
Regretfully they are to be "securely disposed of".
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Post by Ben on Oct 1, 2009 18:44:24 GMT
Bit Orwellian isn't that? Destroy any evidence of the company cocking up. No doubt its to protect 'brand identity' or something.
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Post by 1938 on Oct 1, 2009 20:59:51 GMT
Bit Orwellian isn't that? Destroy any evidence of the company cocking up. No doubt its to protect 'brand identity' or something. Do you really believe they should be on sale to the public? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2009 21:22:31 GMT
Bit Orwellian isn't that? Destroy any evidence of the company cocking up. No doubt its to protect 'brand identity' or something. Do you really believe they should be on sale to the public? Bearing in mind quite how much TfL is cashing in on its graphic design and typeface, I think it perhaps seems odd that they're *not* selling these - they could make a small fortune! |
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Post by Phil on Oct 1, 2009 21:57:14 GMT
Do you really believe they should be on sale to the public? If they're as short of cash as they lead us to believe - why not?? ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Ben on Oct 1, 2009 23:08:35 GMT
Lol, no, I deffinitely wasn't suggesting that it'd be the right thing to do to sell them. My comment about ebay was merely a nodd to the fact that some ex LUL kit seems to end up on ebay and other sites. I believe there are people employed by TfL to monitor such sites aswell for this? My point was to have them securly disposed seems very heavy handed when a skip would suffice. Sensative things are securly disposed, not incorrect signs.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 2, 2009 11:53:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2009 9:51:03 GMT
I was almost disappointed to find out they were corrercted - I took a trip out to Ealing ONLY to see the Ravenscourt signs (this was Oct 2nd (or maybe 1st)), they could've waited a day or two!
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Post by thc on Oct 5, 2009 5:50:06 GMT
Do you really believe they should be on sale to the public? Why not auction them and donate the proceeds to, for example, Children in Need? That would have raised a fair few quid for charity and portrayed LUL in a really positive light. Mistakes happen; it's what you do to recover them that counts. THC |
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