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Post by illmonkey on Aug 24, 2009 14:38:37 GMT
Went to London yesterday, bit of sight seeing etc. Got off at Shepherds Bush to go to Westfield (car was parked here).
As we got off the train, the platform was full of smoke, over the tannoy (public address system) there was a recorded message for us to evacuate the station, so everyone legged it out to see this. Very nasty smell of burning plastic and electrics.
Anyone know what happened? Cant see it on any news sites.
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Post by jamesb on Aug 24, 2009 16:48:46 GMT
Don't know anything about the incident. Completely guessing - could it have come from the bottom of the train - something with too much grease overheating?
But, why doesn't LU use automatic "station closed - do not stop" signs for trains at the headwalls of platforms, linked to the fire alarm system, similar to the notices which light up at the station entrances??
The yellow boards which get opened by platform staff might lead to a delay, causing passengers to step into a potential hazard, if an alarm had just been activated, before staff have a chance to reach the platform/relay a message to trains.
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Post by superteacher on Aug 24, 2009 16:51:23 GMT
There was a fire alert at Bond Street last week which closed the westbound for about 40 mins in the pm peak. Standing on the eastbound at Oxford Circus, you could smell burning coming up the tunnel from Bond Street. No idea what that was either, but I think traction current was off on the weatbound, as there was a train sitting in the westbound with lights off, making no noise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 22:25:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2009 23:03:23 GMT
That certainly looks a deliberate act.
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Post by Colin on Aug 25, 2009 0:14:07 GMT
But, why doesn't LU use automatic "station closed - do not stop" signs for trains at the headwalls of platforms, linked to the fire alarm system, similar to the notices which light up at the station entrances?? The yellow boards which get opened by platform staff might lead to a delay, causing passengers to step into a potential hazard, if an alarm had just been activated, before staff have a chance to reach the platform/relay a message to trains. LU's fire alarm system has two stages, so an evacuation isn't always the immediate answer. Going a little deeper into the subject, LU has set procedures and in the case of an evacuation, one of the methods can be to evacuate by train - if the fire alarm system automatically made trains non stop, we'd have a problem. Non stopping trains could also cause a fan affect which could make a bad situation worse. It all depends on the incident; where it is, how severe it is, etc, etc. In any case, one of the first actions taken by station staff will be to call the line controller (there are specific emergency numbers which get priority attention from line controllers) - so the line controller would be made aware very quickly, then in consultation with station staff (being the people on the ground, and who will have an indication of the location within the station from their fire control panel) a decision will be made on what to do with the train service. This will then be immediately communicated to drivers by the line controller. Now the train you were on may well have arrived during the time that the station staff & line controller were having this conversation - in which case I'm afraid that's just bad luck. Station evacuations have to managed - particularly at busy zone 1 (or even zone 2 to 4) stations - there can be many variables at play and the response to each incident is also variable to suit, within the procedures I've touched on above.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 2:50:50 GMT
By the entrance on to the Green three of the exterior wall panels have burned away. That entrance is closed off. I understand the wall was up in flames some point on Sunday around 4-5pm.
As an aside, I work locally and on my card statement no-one ever spells Shepherds Bush right!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 6:27:01 GMT
A bit OT: when a Scandinavian bus company won the contract for route 283 back in around 1985/6 they spelt it 'Schepherds Bush' on the destination blinds :-)
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 25, 2009 8:36:17 GMT
A bit OT: when a Scandinavian bus company won the contract for route 283 back in around 1985/6 they spelt it 'Schepherds Bush' on the destination blinds :-) Scan Coaches 31/5/86-1/7/89: tinyurl.com/nxny4x
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Post by illmonkey on Aug 25, 2009 11:05:02 GMT
2 Pics I took.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 11:29:19 GMT
As an aside, I work locally and on my card statement no-one ever spells Shepherds Bush right! Shepherds Bush ranks alongside Charing Cross and Edgware Road for being mispelled, even on this forum!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2009 18:01:37 GMT
Surely the correct spelling of Shepherd's Bush is "with" the apostrophe ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Chris M on Aug 25, 2009 22:48:07 GMT
Shepherds and Earls get apostrophes, but Barons don't!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 7:10:12 GMT
Absolutely spot on Chris M.
But the whole subject of apostrophes is a real can of worms and not one I would wish to go into here - maybe it has already been covered elsewhere on this site before?
Anomolies include Regent's Park (modern signs) and Regents Park (tiled signs). Colliers Wood is now as it is spelt here but before the 1990s refurb, (some/all?) trackside roundels were spelt Collier's Wood.
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Post by abe on Aug 26, 2009 7:55:52 GMT
The use of apostrophes in station names (particularly on maps) was covered in an article in Underground News a little while ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2009 8:36:24 GMT
Don't know anything about the incident. Completely guessing - could it have come from the bottom of the train - something with too much grease overheating? But, why doesn't LU use automatic "station closed - do not stop" signs for trains at the headwalls of platforms, linked to the fire alarm system, similar to the notices which light up at the station entrances?? The yellow boards which get opened by platform staff might lead to a delay, causing passengers to step into a potential hazard, if an alarm had just been activated, before staff have a chance to reach the platform/relay a message to trains. One method of evacuating a burning station could be to take people away by train, so automatic non-stopping might not be the thing to do.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 26, 2009 11:54:57 GMT
One method of evacuating a burning station could be to take people away by train, so automatic non-stopping might not be the thing to do. Particularly if the fire is in the ticket hall.
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