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Post by ruislip on Aug 15, 2009 16:49:52 GMT
Is this weekend the first time that Met trains have reversed at Rayners Lane under these circumstances? I seem to recall that once before Uxbridge-bound trains would reverse at HOTH, leaving Piccies to reverse at either Rayners or South Harrow. I understand that Piccies are reversing @ South Harrow this weekend.
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Post by metman on Aug 16, 2009 13:21:32 GMT
No no, we have had this situation a few years ago with all trains terminating at Rayners.
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Post by Ben on Aug 16, 2009 13:45:32 GMT
I like the fact the rail replacement bus service is complimentary. When did that start?
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Post by ruislip on Aug 16, 2009 21:34:45 GMT
Are all the Mets reversing in the siding? On the TFL website I've seen "between Eastcote and Rayners Lane" to describe many up services during these works.
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Post by happybunny on Aug 16, 2009 22:40:03 GMT
Why can the Piccs not run to Rayners too ? Or are they doing something between S.Harrow and the Jct ?
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Post by metman on Aug 16, 2009 23:12:55 GMT
I think the Metropolitan trains are terminating in the (westbound)platform and then wrong road reversing back to West Harrow. Not sure an A stock can fit in Rayners Siding - tight fit if it can. The picc trains would not be able to reverse at the same time therefore, even using the siding.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 5:16:28 GMT
Even if they could reverse in the siding, I expect it would be a capacity issue - we usually seem to have one Rayners Lane train going back east just as the other one pulls in ready to reverse - there is a reasonable amount of stand time in the siding but, if you tried to slot in our Uxbridge trains *and* all the Met ones, it would be chaos or a very reduced service!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 6:33:36 GMT
Not sure an A stock can fit in Rayners Siding - tight fit if it can. They can, and yes it is a tight fit. |
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Post by Ben on Aug 17, 2009 7:17:22 GMT
Is it 6tph on both branches? Its a shame the met northbound only has a trailing crossover; else it could be one platform per line, with the excess reversed at South Harrow for the picc and put in the siding for th met.
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Post by metman on Aug 17, 2009 7:24:22 GMT
Yes, both services have 6tph. Both lines also have trailing crossovers. I guess its easier to have the picc terminate at Sth Harrow as undergroundgal says it would get very busy!
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Post by Ben on Aug 17, 2009 7:43:14 GMT
Indeed. I'm looking at Quail 5 as I type! There would be four options though to reverse the 12 tph. South Harrow, either platform at Rayners seperate, or both platforms via the siding. Surely this would provide enough capacity?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2009 10:20:45 GMT
either platform at Rayners?
You can only reverse off platform 1 at Rayners West to East.
That is why the Piccs reverse at S Harrow
Rayners can't handle 12 tph reversing
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Post by Ben on Aug 17, 2009 10:25:10 GMT
I ment with a facing crossover from the northbound Met east of the station, sorry!
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Post by happybunny on Aug 17, 2009 11:16:46 GMT
They should have reverse 3tph on each line, the other 3tph mets reverse @ Harrow, Piccs at S.Harrow. That way each line gets a service... and that vital connection between Picc and Met line is kept !! Makes too much sense I guess, get on the bus !
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Post by citysig on Aug 17, 2009 14:29:53 GMT
Mmm. 3tph. A 20-minute service. How is that really keeping up a vital connection?
Much simpler for everyone to understand that the service was operating as it was all day, rather than giving false hopes to those on every 2nd Picc and Met train that they were going through, only to be turfed off a station or two before.
At the end of the day, both Met and Picc simply could not be accomodated at Rayners Lane. Therefore the lesser evil of the 2 was decided upon.
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