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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 8:20:11 GMT
With the new timetable from 24 August, trains from Bank to Lewisham in that direction only will use the new avoiding line at West India Quay and will thus not stop at that station - but in rush hours only.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 8:59:19 GMT
It is probably not non-stopping in widest possible meaning - I mean, there is no platform to pass anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 10:22:02 GMT
Absolutely ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by thirstquensher on Aug 12, 2009 12:08:28 GMT
But there is still a station to pass!
The first piece of pedantry would only be valid if it was to say that those trains will no longer be "calling" there.
I wonder if DLR will bother indicating this on the map or just rely on anecdotal knowledge? I assume just a text explanation is all that can be added - there's no neat way it could be shown graphically.
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 12, 2009 12:54:06 GMT
I wonder if DLR will bother indicating this on the map or just rely on anecdotal knowledge? I assume just a text explanation is all that can be added - there's no neat way it could be shown graphically. It would be almost impossible to show it on the map without using text. You would have to use arrows to show that it is only from Bank, and dotted lines to show that it's a peak hours only service. On the LU map, the DLR is shown with a white stripe in the line, so you then have a line shown as two rows of dots. That could be difficult for people to see, but the main problem is there's no way of showing a the service that does stop at WIQ, that doesn't run in the peaks. |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 12, 2009 13:26:36 GMT
You could argue that the DLR is already non-stopping the new South Quay station, as that appears almost finished. Presumably when it opens there will be a time the DLR non-stops the existing station before it is decomissioned?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Aug 12, 2009 13:45:43 GMT
Sorry to go off-topic here, but I havent seen it since mid July. Here is the link for when I passed it: cuthut.com/BpWIt will be a bit of a challenge to display the service patterns on the maps. Tourists will need to understand the new maps/stickers easily as well. |
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Post by thirstquensher on Aug 12, 2009 19:31:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2009 19:46:01 GMT
That wasnt too bad at all!
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 12, 2009 20:09:35 GMT
Pretty good, it's quite clear what's happening, the only thing I can think of would be if all the ticks went the same way (getting rid of the one pointing towards the bypass line), but I understand that that doesn't fit the style of the rest.
For your next challenge, how's it going to be shown on the "Tube Map"?
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 12, 2009 21:40:44 GMT
That looks ok, but it could be confusing as it doesn't show that no Bank - Lewisham trains stop at WIQ in the peaks (some people might think that only some of the services don't stop). I think the text could be changed to something like "Bank - Lewisham trains do not stop at West India Quay in peak hours". |
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Post by thirstquensher on Aug 13, 2009 12:26:27 GMT
Pretty good, it's quite clear what's happening, the only thing I can think of would be if all the ticks went the same way (getting rid of the one pointing towards the bypass line), but I understand that that doesn't fit the style of the rest. For your next challenge, how's it going to be shown on the "Tube Map"? Easy... with a dagger next to the station name and a footnote at the bottom!!! ;D No seriously, I'll have a go when I get home this evening. |
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Post by mcmaddog on Aug 13, 2009 13:38:49 GMT
For your next challenge, how's it going to be shown on the "Tube Map"? You wouldn't show it, in the same way that the Met shows all stations. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 14:58:24 GMT
Some of the Met Line enamel diagrams at stations show stations non-stopped as do the car line diagrams I believe?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2009 15:08:59 GMT
I wonder how will they fit the Stratford International extension next year? It certainly does not fit into current (horizontal) type of map.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Aug 13, 2009 16:15:52 GMT
I wonder how will they fit the Stratford International extension next year? It certainly does not fit into current (horizontal) type of map. Woah! I never noticed how tight it would be on the horizontal map! They'll have to push the Stratford branch up a bit so they can fit in a decent line from Canning Town to Stratford |
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Post by mcmaddog on Aug 13, 2009 16:26:01 GMT
Some of the Met Line enamel diagrams at stations show stations non-stopped as do the car line diagrams I believe? Correct, however the question was specifically about the "tube map" which is all encompassing. |
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Post by Chris M on Aug 13, 2009 17:43:10 GMT
Given that the tube map doesn't show that not all Met services call at all stations, why would they attempt to show it for West India Quay?
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Post by thirstquensher on Aug 13, 2009 22:43:08 GMT
For your next challenge, how's it going to be shown on the "Tube Map"? You wouldn't show it, in the same way that the Met shows all stations. You're quite right, it wouldn't actually be fitting to try and show it on the Tube Map. But if it was... farm3.static.flickr.com/2560/3819123102_8e26f5eca7.jpg |
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Post by thirstquensher on Aug 13, 2009 22:53:37 GMT
I wonder how will they fit the Stratford International extension next year? It certainly does not fit into current (horizontal) type of map. Woah! I never noticed how tight it would be on the horizontal map! They'll have to push the Stratford branch up a bit so they can fit in a decent line from Canning Town to Stratford It will be a real squash, as indeed it would have been more so if Dagenham Dock hadn't been all but struck off last year (although I think the idea may be resurging). Here's what I envisaged when I tried to address this problem back in 2005. farm3.static.flickr.com/2485/3818336013_50e0e0f7ae_b.jpgI know what the problems are with this map (zones, font, ELL, Langdon Park, etc.); these were things I know now that I didn't know then, and I can't be bothered reworking it right now! Suffice to say I think I'd start from scratch to be honest. |
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Post by franknapo on Aug 19, 2009 3:27:27 GMT
That looks ok, but it could be confusing as it doesn't show that no Bank - Lewisham trains stop at WIQ in the peaks (some people might think that only some of the services don't stop). I think the text could be changed to something like "Bank - Lewisham trains do not stop at West India Quay in peak hours". Well they have started to add a small sticker on the car maps, with a dagger explaining that trains from Bank will stop at West India Quay at peak hours. They must of been added at the weekend because they was not on the trains last week. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2009 13:19:22 GMT
In the Turnham Green-style?
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Post by astock5000 on Aug 24, 2009 22:04:11 GMT
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Post by happybunny on Aug 24, 2009 22:06:05 GMT
If a DLR train is out of service (due to defect or vandalism etc) does it pass through the station at full line speed? Or slow to like 5mph, similar to some LUL stations) ?
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Post by franknapo on Aug 25, 2009 11:40:13 GMT
If a DLR train is out of service (due to defect or vandalism etc) does it pass through the station at full line speed? Or slow to like 5mph, similar to some LUL stations) ? It should be 20KPH. But most of the time goes full line speed. |
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