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Post by rob4hells on Jul 12, 2009 2:51:23 GMT
hi im new to this...
i ws wondering if any one had any info on the metropolitan line terminating @ ruislip and going in to ruislip siddings.
i was only aware that the Picadilly line terminated but on more than 1 occasion lately the met has been termating @ ruislip.
any 1 no any more???
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Post by citysig on Jul 12, 2009 7:06:11 GMT
During service recovery, Ruislip is sometimes used as a reversing point to recover late-running. It is only really used as a last resort - normally if all the trains heading towards Uxbridge would clog Uxbridge up.
The reversing move sees a train detrain at Ruislip westbound, then leave empty for the pretty long run to the siding. In the time this all takes, the train could pretty much have arrived at Hillingdon. In the siding the driver changes ends, and then a suitable slot is found to bring the train back onto the eastbound.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 14:04:44 GMT
The reversing move sees a train detrain at Ruislip westbound, then leave empty for the pretty long run to the siding. In the time this all takes, the train could pretty much have arrived at Hillingdon. In the siding the driver changes ends, and then a suitable slot is found to bring the train back onto the eastbound. Most cases it is just as quick to go into Uxbridge as normal. I did offer ruislip to a driver the other day and he said he would prefer Uxbridge as it is easier....fair enough! |
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Post by orienteer on Jul 17, 2009 21:18:01 GMT
I was on an Uxbridge Picc train yesterday afternoon (about 14.40) which was considerably delayed by a Met train in front. The T/Op announced it was having door trouble, and was detraining at Ruislip. We passed it in the siding at Ruislip, after collecting its passengers at Ruislip.
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Post by citysig on Jul 18, 2009 20:01:53 GMT
If memory serves, the Met actually had defective brakes, and as he was detraining at Ruislip, the best course of action was to reverse it via the siding there rather than limp it on to Uxbridge (and delay your train more.)
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Post by ruislip on Jul 18, 2009 23:36:07 GMT
Was that train ever taken out of service, having defective brakes? My guess is that once it reversed, it probably only stayed in service until Harrow or Wembley Park.
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Post by citysig on Jul 19, 2009 7:32:58 GMT
In the words of a famous nodding dog who sells car insurance "Ohhh no, no, no." ;D
If a train has a defect such as this, and there are other trains around (i.e. it's not the last train of the day) the train will nearly always run empty.
After detraining at Ruislip, the train reversed via the siding and went empty to Neasden depot.
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Post by superteacher on Aug 4, 2009 23:43:20 GMT
The reversing move sees a train detrain at Ruislip westbound, then leave empty for the pretty long run to the siding. In the time this all takes, the train could pretty much have arrived at Hillingdon. In the siding the driver changes ends, and then a suitable slot is found to bring the train back onto the eastbound. Most cases it is just as quick to go into Uxbridge as normal. I did offer ruislip to a driver the other day and he said he would prefer Uxbridge as it is easier....fair enough! I wasn't aware that drivers had a choice - I thought that they were "told" to reverse at a certain point! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 7:14:06 GMT
Most cases it is just as quick to go into Uxbridge as normal. I did offer ruislip to a driver the other day and he said he would prefer Uxbridge as it is easier....fair enough! I wasn't aware that drivers had a choice - I thought that they were "told" to reverse at a certain point! They are told where the train will reverse. If they were all offered the chance to reverse short, and speaking as an ex T/Op, you would be lucky to get a train near either end of the line. However, as my colleague stated earlier, if the train has a defect then the train will go into the nearest siding to get things moving ASAP. |
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Post by citysig on Aug 5, 2009 9:13:53 GMT
I wasn't aware that drivers had a choice - I thought that they were "told" to reverse at a certain point! Well, yes and no. I like to think of (some) of our drivers as adults (cue barrage of flying objects ;D ). As such, co-operation works both ways. There are professional men and women driving our trains who, given the choice of terminating short (with the added hassle of tipping out etc.) or running through (assisting our travelling public) with a very quick turn-round at the other end sometimes opt for the running through option. If there is a shutdown, then very few choices. If it's simple late-running recovery then there can be options, and when we work as a team, everybody is happy ;D |
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