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Post by mcdrye on Nov 15, 2006 18:27:01 GMT
I'm interested as to why Fenchurch Street, the first rail terminus in the City, does not have a London Underground station. Forget Tower Hill, why is there no station close enough to be called Fenchurch Street and have direct interchange with National Rail?
First the District and Circle, then the Jubilee line, then the DLR.
Is it true that Tower Gateway is a result of underfunding, a solution to a much grander DLR scheme?
Its quite ridiculous seeing huge numbers of people striding along a small side street to Tower Hill each morning (running if it's raining) having a free paper thrusted in your face every 20 metres, why didn't anyone even build an undergorund passageway between the two stations?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 18:33:36 GMT
I'm interested as to why Fenchurch Street, the first rail terminus in the City, does not have a London Underground station. Forget Tower Hill, why is there no station close enough to be called Fenchurch Street and have direct interchange with National Rail? Lack of planning, I suppose. With the country end of the platforms literally within spitting distance of the eastern end of Tower Hill station, a behind-barrier subway is definitely a possibility, although it would be expensive. First the District and Circle, then the Jubilee line, then the DLR. The Jubilee doesn't go anywhere near Fenchurch Street. Is it true that Tower Gateway is a result of underfunding, a solution to a much grander DLR scheme? Pass - AFAIK Tower Gateway was always meant to be like it is now. Its quite ridiculous seeing huge numbers of people striding along a small side street to Tower Hill each morning (running if it's raining) having a free paper thrusted in your face every 20 metres, why didn't anyone even build an undergorund passageway between the two stations? Lack of funds; the original DLR was built to a cut-rate super-low price. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 18:38:01 GMT
DLR was built cheap without drivers, light rail trains, little but often service and modular design allowing for expansion.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 18:45:34 GMT
Also don't forget, that Tower Hill wasn't where it is now originally...
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Post by mcdrye on Nov 15, 2006 18:50:10 GMT
Such a quick set of replies!
The Jubilee line or 'Fleet' line as it was known, was originally planned to go to City via Fenchurch Street before the Docklands regen idea was born.
I suppose Tower Hill is closer than Mark Lane was so thats a bonus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 21:31:27 GMT
I think the original DLR cost £77M
A bargain for a "starter train set"
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Post by solidbond on Nov 15, 2006 21:49:00 GMT
I think the original DLR cost £77M Indeed - and it always made me smile that they built the whole railway for £77M and then spent double that to add one station (Bank)  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2006 21:50:22 GMT
And they have now extended the platforms... for the third time!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2006 21:06:54 GMT
Thats what happensd when the "plan" for low density regeneration suddenly becomes Canary Wharf ......
Mind you look what happened to the N Woolwich area - which reminds me must have a last trip on the 313s
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2006 21:14:22 GMT
There was a time when the whole Canary Wharf/Docklands idea looked crazy - it took ages to fill the original tower. Many thought the DLR would be a white elephant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2006 21:27:23 GMT
I believe I've seen proposals somewhere to move the Tower Gateway DLR terminus into the present Tower Hill Station. Realising it would mean a part of the university building that is in the way has to be demolished and major works on present Tower Hill but it can be done. It would be a splendid opportunity to create a better link with Fenchurch Street. I have my doubts whether the probably impressive costs would be justified though, it may never happen. Edit: As usual I can't find my sources.  The only thing a quick search produces is this but last news there is five years old. This site mentions the creation of a Fenchurch Street - Tower Hill connection. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2006 12:40:34 GMT
I doubt the university would have any of it though, where would they put the aerospace department? London Met has enough of the "too many students too little space" problem at the moment, if DLR wanted to knock down one of the city campus' main buildings it'd cost Serco/whoever flippin' loads.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2006 13:35:33 GMT
Came across more stuff. Apparently, according to this investment strategy, the university would be willing to cooperate: According to this Final Audit some demands should be met though: On the whole, given that the local authority would like to connect Fenchurch Street to Tower Hill and would like to rebuild Tower Hill station, I think it is likely for a connection to be build. However, involving Tower Gateway DLR station in this scheme is more complex and therefore may take longer or may never happen. |
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