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Post by londonse on Feb 15, 2009 16:19:42 GMT
My interest's focus on Baker Street I have recently discovered that it was once proposed to have a coach station above the Met line, details are scarce anyone know anymore?
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Post by slugabed on Feb 15, 2009 17:37:32 GMT
What era are we talking here?
I know that in the 80s it was proposed inter alia to convert the lines from Marylebone into a road,the idea being that the service would be cheaper to run using conventional coaches.There would have been a Coach station at the end,but I'm assuming that would have been built on the Marylbone site.
This was during the "we hate trains" period of British politics,and the more extreme proponents urged that all railways be converted into roads open to all traffic.This was watered down to a slightly less bonkers plan to replace the relatively self-contained Marylebone lines with a busway.The other fairly self-contained line considered for conversion was the LTS line,until someone pointed out the vast quantity of freight which uses that line.Instead,it was used as a pilot privatisation,and the Marylebone scheme was quietly forgotten.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 20:18:21 GMT
If I recall correctly coaches would still have gond to Victoria and trains would have been rerouted into Paddington with the Met Line being extended from Amersham to Aylesbury.
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Post by 21146 on Feb 15, 2009 22:06:50 GMT
Would this have been for Green Line coaches? I remember that the 709 terminated there for many years and there was a rare LT 'Coach Stand' flag in Alsop Place, outside the staff canteen
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Post by 21146 on Feb 15, 2009 22:10:07 GMT
Talking of Baker Street canteen, I remember when train staff on five lines (Bakerloo, Circle, Hammersmith & City, Jubilee and Metropolitan) took their meal reliefs there. Now not one line has Baker Street as a relief point and, on a recent visit, I found the canteen packed with Met Police Traffic Wardens (increasingly rare), PSCOs and 'Vehicle Removal Officers', plus the occasional bus driver. How times change!
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Post by slugabed on Feb 16, 2009 0:04:45 GMT
If I recall correctly coaches would still have gond to Victoria and trains would have been rerouted into Paddington with the Met Line being extended from Amersham to Aylesbury. That's right,I remember now.....the idea was for an express busway to the North Circular at Neasden.The Met would run to Aylesbury,and the Banbury-Wycombe-Marylebone trains to Paddington,and the Neasden-Norholt Jct sectin was to be abandoned. |
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Post by ruislip on Feb 16, 2009 0:56:21 GMT
I remember that the 709 terminated there for many years and there was a rare LT 'Coach Stand' flag in Alsop Place, outside the staff canteen In its later days, as the last Green Line to regularly use Routemasters (the RCL version), it only ran during the peaks M-F along with one or two round trips on Sundays. |
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Post by 21146 on Feb 16, 2009 3:04:00 GMT
I remember riding on the last RCL-operated journey
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Post by miztert on Feb 16, 2009 11:53:17 GMT
Talking of Baker Street canteen, I remember when train staff on five lines (Bakerloo, Circle, Hammersmith & City, Jubilee and Metropolitan) took their meal reliefs there. Now not one line has Baker Street as a relief point and, on a recent visit, I found the canteen packed with Met Police Traffic Wardens (increasingly rare), PSCOs and 'Vehicle Removal Officers', plus the occasional bus driver. How times change! Met Police Traffic Wardens are not "increasingly rare" - though the notion of the police doing traffic warden duty took a big hit in London when much of the responsibility for enforcement was transferred to the Boroughs (for yellow lines and parking bays etc) in the 90's. However Red Routes were also being introduced in London around the same time and the Met were given responsibility for enforcing them, I think right from the beginning - the "Red Route Patrols". Anyway when TfL was created they began to fund the Met Police to do more enforcement - Red Routes, bus lanes, bus network policing, a bit of other highway policing as well I think. Anyway, point being is that Met Police Traffic Wardens are most certainly not a dying breed these days, though in the 90's when much of the enforcement powers were transferred to the Boroughs it would probably have seemed that way. Not sure what happened to the Met's Traffic Wardens then - i.e. whether some transferred to the Boroughs, were made redundant etc, or moved elsewhere within the Met. |
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Post by londonse on Feb 16, 2009 16:56:39 GMT
What era are we talking here? I know that in the 80s it was proposed inter alia to convert the lines from Marylebone into a road,the idea being that the service would be cheaper to run using conventional coaches.There would have been a Coach station at the end,but I'm assuming that would have been built on the Marylbone site. This was during the "we hate trains" period of British politics,and the more extreme proponents urged that all railways be converted into roads open to all traffic.This was watered down to a slightly less bonkers plan to replace the relatively self-contained Marylebone lines with a busway.The other fairly self-contained line considered for conversion was the LTS line,until someone pointed out the vast quantity of freight which uses that line.Instead,it was used as a pilot privatisation,and the Marylebone scheme was quietly forgotten. From what I can gather it would have been the 1930/40 and the coaches would have used Allsop Place from Marylebone Rd and when leaving the coach station turned left into Allsop Place. |
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