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Post by seaeagle on Dec 21, 2010 17:54:29 GMT
201 & 202 Brixton, 203 Victoria, 205 & 206 Walthamstow. 203 runs empty from North Park to Victoria the night before, leaves North Park at 23.11, arrives Vic 23.42. Thanks. Have seen 2009 stock on these quite regularly of late, but with how many times trains seems to get reformed on the Vic on a daily basis, you never know if that's what they started out as. I remember a few weeks ago, I saw a 2009 stock showing three different set number during the course of a few hours! When the job goes up the wall, every time a train gets to Brixton it's being re-numbered, so as you say it's quite common place at the moment to see the same unit running as a different number during the day.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 21, 2010 17:47:11 GMT
Two at Brixton, Two at Walthamstow and one at Victoria. Ah yes, that's trains 201, 202, 203, 205 and 206. Which one is the Victoria starter? 201 & 202 Brixton, 203 Victoria, 205 & 206 Walthamstow. 203 runs empty from North Park to Victoria the night before, leaves North Park at 23.11, arrives Vic 23.42.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 21, 2010 17:40:30 GMT
So only 17 1967 stock in service then - apart from Victoria, where else are trains outstabled on the Vic? Two at Brixton, Two at Walthamstow and one at Victoria.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 21, 2010 17:39:16 GMT
So only 16 1967 stock in service - must have been 21 2009 stock. The belance has tipped! Perhaps not quite yet! Depends what stock the 5 out stablers were, as said above, the Victoria one was a 67.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 21, 2010 17:37:35 GMT
T216 units 67 - 27 T224 units 54 - 70 That's interesting. Unit 3070 had been running with 3073 for months. 3127 was coupled to 3056, and 3067 ran with 3139. Units 39, 56 and 73 are not on your list - have they been withdrawn? I couldn't tell you if they are withdrawn or not, I just took a copy of the list that was displayed at North Park this morning. I didn't notice any 'stopped' units at the depot last night. Don't know what stocks the Brixton or Walthamstow out stablers were last night, as I said the Victoria outstabler was a 67.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 21, 2010 12:52:01 GMT
67 stock working out of North Park this morning (21st) by train number, (north end first): T215 units 71 - 33 T216 units 67 - 27 T217 units 50 - 72 T223 units 07 - 06 T224 units 54 - 70 T226 units 26 - 82 T227 units 79 - 59 T231 units 05 - 49 T236 units 34 - 85 T237 units 28 - 55 T240 units 76 - 58 T242 units 78 - 75 T243 units 22 - 23 T244 units 03 - 62 T245 units 47 - 14 T246 units 74 - 81 The Victoria out-stabler was also a 67 stock, (units unknown). Newest 09 stock out was train 24 11047/48.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 20, 2010 14:20:52 GMT
There were 9 trains cancelled yesterday afternoon and evening because of Train Ops not available. In that case surely the reason for the delays should be non availability of drivers not adverse weather. The non availability of drivers was caused by the adverse weather conditions preventing drivers from getting to work. So in theory, both excuses are valid!
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 11, 2010 10:38:43 GMT
Have not seen 11001/2 or 11003/4 running as yet. Can anyone confirm their whereabouts please. You won't see them running on the Vic, they were the prototype 09's and have now returned back north.
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Post by seaeagle on Dec 10, 2010 18:57:13 GMT
Was speaking to a station supervisor today who had alot of positive words to say about the new stock. Try asking a few of the drivers what they think about the new stock, I'll bet there won't be a lot of positive words said then, especially when talking about sensitive edges on doors!
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Post by seaeagle on Nov 1, 2010 18:49:44 GMT
Just curious, in terms of height can the suspension be altered on them? Like the old citroens, for example. The air suspension can be manually deflated by the driver if required, i.e. for coupling up to a failed train.
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Post by seaeagle on Oct 24, 2010 17:44:54 GMT
Now that there are 16 09ts does this mean that there are 28 67ts left? I was just wondering if when a new train arrives does a 67ts go? In a nutshell yes. Lorries bring the 09 to Northumberland Park depot, then go to Acton to pick up a 67 to take to Booths.
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Post by seaeagle on Oct 21, 2010 13:58:09 GMT
3153+3052 heading into Acton Works this morning. Hope they remember that 3052 is going accross the road to the depot rather than north on the back of a lorry!
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 22, 2010 7:46:20 GMT
Without going two much off topic, I would suggest that for 3 car trains the 72stock would be easier to convert than the 67 stock. I would use the 3 car portion of the 72 stock and swap the UNDM with a DM. In order to have two compressors, right? No, DM's or UNDM's aren't fitted with compressors, only trailer cars are. I doubt it would be a hard job to move compressors to the DM's.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 21, 2010 17:57:42 GMT
Just to confirm that DM 3016 was involved in an accident at Northumberland Park depot around 1991/92. An eight car 67 stock, (3016 was the north end DM), was being used to teach new Vic line drivers the push-out procedure, using the south end unit as the pushing unit, when the emergency brake failed on 16 unit, and was rammed into the stops on 33 road. The instructor lost a foot. The gutted shell of 3016 sat on sleepers for a few years by where the old 58 & 59 short roads used to be at Northumberland Park before being sold.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 20, 2010 18:14:00 GMT
Where on earth are the 72MKI's now anyway? Some of them are going up and down the Victoria Line, plenty of DM's and trailers still in use, but not for much longer.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 20, 2010 18:12:17 GMT
I think there should be a post-refurb DM saved at least, as an example of LU's first corporate refurb. It can stand fir both the 67s and the 72s. Oh, the 73s MUST be preserved, but that's a diff story. DM 3052 is being saved in the depot museum at Acton when it's withdrawn from service. Out of interest, what would be the market for a farewell tour with the 67's?
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 14, 2010 17:53:02 GMT
I use the Vic daily, and have racked up a dozen or so short trips on the 09's. Today we were held outside Victoria for a short while. The T/OP did a good job of keeping us informed, but the sound quality of the PA system was very poor, in both Volume and distortion (the automatic announcements were a bit softer than ideal but perfectly clear). It was bad enough that I actually missed what the actual problem with the train ahead was (possibly a passenger alarm?) - Car number was 12019.The PA system when used manually on an 09 is terrible, there have been numerous complaints from passengers and staff. What I understand there will be a software fix coming, but as and when is anybodies guess at this time.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 12, 2010 18:01:44 GMT
If anyone is around tomorrow, (Sunday 12th Sept), trains 211, 212, 213, 214 & 223 are booked to be 09's. Didn't quite work out as planned, train 212 was a 67 stock, (units 32 & 69), the others started the day as 09's, but train 214, (11005 & 11006), had a failed T.C.M.S at around 09.00 and train 213. (11023 & 11024) had the same defect just after 2.30 at Victoria south, (I was driving!). Booked for 09 stock tomorrow and the rest of this week to Friday are trains 222, 231, 234, 235, 236, 237, 241, 244, 245, 246 & 271, although some may not be out for the whole day and these are of course subject to change.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 11, 2010 11:17:04 GMT
If anyone is around tomorrow, (Sunday 12th Sept), trains 211, 212, 213, 214 & 223 are booked to be 09's.
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Post by seaeagle on Sept 11, 2010 11:12:10 GMT
08:52 NB at Oxford Circus. Seven Sisters train which I took to Finsbury Park. Total silence. Not a single announcement and no ontrain display. I felt like I only got half of the 09 experience. I was the driver of the 09 that you were on, it was my maiden solo trip on an 09. The reason there was no announcement's, on train display, destination or train running number was because the C.I.S unit on DM 11020 had failed, and had been failed for a couple of days, hence other reports of an 09 running around like this. Hope that answers your coment.
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