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Post by The Tram Man on Dec 1, 2014 21:15:57 GMT
I thought those were hand painted? Either way, those are a little larger than what i had in mind. I was thinking of the kind of stickers that have been put on more modern stock (1960ts CLR crests, A-stock MET crests, etc.) for various reasons. Like the one i linked to above, a D78 wearing a small MET crest.
As for the LT Museum, i have looked on their online store, but i haven't seen any.
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Post by The Tram Man on Dec 1, 2014 14:57:11 GMT
Nobody knows where i might be able to get some of these stickers? I'm not going to run around putting them up if that's what you think.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 19, 2014 19:07:18 GMT
I don't really know where this post belongs, but anyway... Does anyone know if and, if so, where i might be able to get a hold of some these crest stickers? Such as the one in this thread, but not just the Met.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 18, 2014 20:16:05 GMT
Tram Man - the Dreadnought kits are a bit of a pig to build at the moment which is why they are being re-done with a one piece body. The only things separate are the roofs, buffers, bogies and stretcher bars (which are also now one piece - thankfully!). I can't see a RTR to run version being introduced for a while - I suggest it will be dependant on how the BoBo sells. The problem with RTR coaches is the hand rails can look a bit blocky. Case in point the EFE cars. This means you have to take them off which is a real hassle to cover up where they were. I don't fancy doing that on a Dreadnought! True, it could depend on how well the BoBo sells, but as mentioned, Bachmann has a whole series of numbers reserved for LU/LT models. That could mean basically anything. I agree, the handrails on the EFE models aren't the best, but i'm not a perfectionist so i'm not really bothered. Although, there is one way of supplying RTR cars without blocky looking handrails. Make them as seperate pieces, either to be applied in the factory or by the buyer.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 18, 2014 17:54:39 GMT
I think that might be a trick of the light. Look on the right side of the DM's cabs. It looks to me like the sides do taper inwards a little bit, but maybe not enough. Although that could be because of the angle.
Of course, i could be completely wrong.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 18, 2014 13:02:41 GMT
metman: Well, that's true. The positive thing about the Metromodels kits though is that they are now 3D printed and designed to ride pretty much like the real thing. I have however heard a few mixed things about them. John himself said, when i met him, that they are hand finished and that's why they are as costly as they are. On the other hand, i have seen a build report of a 1983-stock kit. I do however look forward to buying some of those kits later on, finished or not.
lulfan: Actually, from what i've heard they sold quite well, but that might have been just the Isle of Wight sets. I'm not sure.
Dstock7080: You know what they say, you never stop learning.
I like the models anyway, despite their flaws.
And depsite them being "slow sellers" i have heard rumors that EFE/Bachmann will produce more LU models in the future.
metman, again: There are kits for the Dreadnoughts, but again i've heard mixed things about them. But seeing as Heljan and Bachmann have released the Bo-Bo's and Panniers i don't think matching rtr coaches are far away.
Anyway, yeah, there is indeed a scenic break on each end. I am unsure of how to handle that though. As i was hoping to make this a modular station, for a layout that usually is mostly single track, i might have to make the tunnels as seperate modules. That way i can swap them for switches/points if needed.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 17, 2014 23:09:31 GMT
I didn't actually think of that, whistle, but you do have a point. Most kits i've built have been 1:200 and 1:144 scale civilian airliners, pretty mainstream i guess.
However, if lulfan is correct in saying that some kits have never been improved in 40 years, then they should be made cheaper i think. Or improvement. Either one is fine by me. I understand that it's a niche market, but still. I mean, 40 years without improvement.
And last but not least, the black ferret. That is, apart from the weeds, pretty much the same look i am hoping to model.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 17, 2014 20:34:59 GMT
lulfan: It is a lot of money. And i thought one purpose of kits was to make them cheaper than the ready made products. theblackferret: In the timeframe i'm hoping to model the building closes to the camera will have been torn down. For better and for worse. It's a good looking little house, but there are to my knowledge no kits of it. metman: It would be great if they could be modified so they ride at the same height. As for the Metromodels bogies, this is the picture that i have been referring to. According to the photographer, who also owns the cars, the standard stock trailer is riding on Metromodels bogies.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 17, 2014 16:35:46 GMT
Considering the small size of the text, i can't really say the font is a big issue for me.
But about that picture, i spoke to the owner of those cars and he is the one who recommended i change the bogies. That could be the reason why his 1927 car is a bit high. However, even in Radley's own photos they look too high. He also mentioned that his car is the older version which was why it looked so "chunky" as he put it. I don't know if that has improved since he bought his.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 17, 2014 15:53:46 GMT
just do not look quite right Well, that's one thing i've noticed in the photos i've seen of the Radley standard stock kits. To me they look too short, and too high above the ground.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 17, 2014 1:33:51 GMT
I don't have any of their standard stock so I can't comment although I don't see why the standard stock bogies need be replaced though? The V2 trailer bogies are such a short wheelbase I wish anyone luck trying to find replacements! I'm hoping to order a 1927 trailer in the new year to run with my 1938 stock so I'll find out soon enough! Well, i wish you luck. I was actually recommended i replace them with Metromodels bogies. I don't know if they were modified in any way, other than the Radley bogie sides being glued on. I'd always recommend giving kits a go yourself. You'll never learn otherwise. I love to build the kits myself so I can stamp my personal touches on the finished models. Well, that's true. However, after having built a number of model aircraft kits i can tell you that my skills have not exactly improved.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 15, 2014 16:11:10 GMT
i will stick to the stock used on the Northern Line. Standard stock might be an exception, . Standard stock did run on the Northern Line, although mosyt of it had gone by the time the Highgate line would have been opened. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Hendon_Central_station,_underground_railway_above_ground_(CJ_Allen,_Steel_Highway,_1928).jpg However, it worked the Moorgate-Finsbury Park section of what would have become the Moorgate - Ally Pally route through Highgate High Level until 1964. I meant to say "on the Northern Line in my timeframe." Then the Standard stock would've been the only exception.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 15, 2014 14:12:09 GMT
You've got that right, metman. I can drive what i want. But i will stick to the stock used on the Northern Line. Standard stock might be an exception, but that would be the only one. Unless i decide to check out what it would look like had it become a Met station, like someone suggested over at another forum. Radley models do standard stock although they are kits. They do the option of ready to run but that will cost extra!! Yeah, £100 for them to build it. However i kind of want to build it myself as i've been told i should replace the original Radley bogies. But then we're back at square one as i suck at that.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 14, 2014 14:27:58 GMT
lulfan: Fingers crossed indeed!
Tomcakes: I don't have many pics myself, i only took two when i was there. I wish i had taken more, but i can't go back in time. But i'll let you know if i require any photos.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 14, 2014 0:32:32 GMT
Thanks for your suggestions, everyone! mrfs42: That would come in handy if i decide to build a larger layout including Highgate HL, so that would be more than welcome! whistlekiller2000: Yes, and although fictional aswell, that layout is a little different than the one i had in mind. I am hoping to get as close as possible to the real thing with my limited experience, funds and lack of available station buildings. Therefore i am planning to include the two original, overgrown platforms, cables, and hopefully tunnel entrances plus a short tunnel. metman: I will be using first 1959-stock first hand, though i might buy more stock as time goes by. Keep in mind though that this is planned as a module, and will in that case be displayed on shows. So you might see more than UK trains on it. Telling me what to use will only get you so far. However, like i said, i am planning on giving it a post-1967 look, so 1938-stock is more than welcome. And maybe even some 1995-stock, who knows? etr220: I like your idea of using standard stock, my friend. And believe me when i say that i would love to have some standard stock trains in operation. Sadly i am no good with kits, so that will have to wait.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 12, 2014 23:11:06 GMT
Sure you know the history of the Northern Heights extensions backwards. I'm not sure i understand what you mean by that. Having said that, I'd concentrate on post-1967 shots of Mill Hill East (which was meant to be an intermediate station to Bushey etc.) and somewhere intermediate on the High Barnet branch, which came into operation intact in 1940. That will give you two ex-GNR stations with some pre-war features still there, both of which would, if you find the right photos, give you a very good impression of what a Highgate High Level LT station would have looked like at the time you want. Thanks for your advice! And congratulations on the idea-brilliant, good luck with it. Thanks mate.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 12, 2014 22:52:13 GMT
Don't hold your breath. There are a number of things i have to get sorted out first, but i will go through with this asap.
For the time being this is just research.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 12, 2014 16:25:21 GMT
I am planning to, in the future, build a module/layout/diorama of Highgate High Level as it might have looked had it actually become a Northern Line station. Maybe not a 100% accurate model as not everything is available in 00-gauge. The original station building for example, i don't think that's available. I got the idea after visiting the station when i was in London in August. However, is there anything special i should think about? It's going to be a post-1967 representation, so i won't include any of the 1880's buildings. But are there any other details i should add or remove? Keep in mind that in this model the station will never have been closed, so i know of a few obvious ones. I have already placed an order for a custom repainted 1959-stock car showing Highgate as the destination. I only chose Highgate as Alexandra Palace wasn't available.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 11, 2014 20:13:44 GMT
For once i actually wish i played Minecraft.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 9, 2014 23:23:20 GMT
The marker lights also were arranged to denote the route of the train which was useful for signalmen et al. That much i knew, but i thought they served to light up the tunnels aswell.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 9, 2014 18:50:25 GMT
As that's how it is here, that's what i assumed it was like in the UK aswell.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 9, 2014 17:38:44 GMT
So, basically, after reading this it turns out that my understanding of headlights on british trains are all wrong.
Although, to be fair, that does explain why the lights i've seen on steam locos have been so small.
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Post by The Tram Man on Nov 9, 2014 15:40:36 GMT
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 25, 2014 17:25:21 GMT
See my previous post. The train stabled at Hainault mid day for maintenance mid day and overnightb at Loughton as that was where it was crewed from. I know this because I used to drive this train regularly and drove the last Ongar service. That makes sense. Although you didn't mention the crew reason before, but that makes sense. Just one question though: did the same driver stay with the train through the peak, or did they swap driver at Epping sometime?
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 25, 2014 14:59:00 GMT
Well, i'll be damned. I've never heard of that before, not as far as i can remember. As above. I caught a 4 car 62ts from Woodford to Ongar on occasion. I mentioned it before on here once. It left Woodford at around 3.30pm. I sometimes saw it stabled in the siding parallel to the London bound platform at Loughton. Edit: I found this picture of a 60/38ts 3 car set stabled at Loughton in the siding mentioned That is one beautiful looking train. So, anyway, this was standard operating procedure. Interesting. I always thought that the train was stabled in either Epping or Ongar during off peak hours.
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 25, 2014 1:14:57 GMT
Well, i'll be damned. I've never heard of that before, not as far as i can remember.
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 24, 2014 22:53:57 GMT
I have just found two photos of a four car 1962 stock train displaying "Ongar" standing at Theydon Bois and at Loughton. The same person also has a photo of a train at Ongar showing Loughton on the destination blind. In all photos the doors on the train are open. Was this part of the normal service, or is there another explanation to these shots? I don't have a flickr account, so i can't ask the owner of the pics.
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 22, 2014 18:20:14 GMT
Thanks, but most of those pictures show the station after closing.
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 20, 2014 13:17:45 GMT
That much i know. However, at the time i wrote that i could't get their photo archive to work.
Edit: Ok, now it works.
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Post by The Tram Man on Oct 20, 2014 10:58:34 GMT
This may sound like a stupid question, and i am pretty sure that the answer will be very obvious when i hear it, but does anyone know where i could find some photos of the station still in use? Specifically photos with trains in them, possibly from platform level.
All the photos that i have seen show the station buildings.
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