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Post by metrailway on Jan 9, 2011 23:23:56 GMT
Don't forget the 'T' stock. I would suggest Sarah + the Dreadnoughts + the 'T' stock. With through MU wiring there would be no need to run round. Then # 1 with the Bluebell stock. Hopefully the four cars of 'Q' stock could also be running although they are District rather than Metropolitan stock. Might as well add some black 5s, 4MTs other BR steam locos and haul the dreadnoughts to Aylesbury just like in the good old days! ;D
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Post by metrailway on Jan 1, 2011 20:18:45 GMT
The most logical would be a conversion to overhead wire. I agree and so does the DfT as all new 3rd rail EMUs are built so a pantograph can be fitted easily if/when overhead conversion happens
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Post by metrailway on Jan 1, 2011 20:11:19 GMT
Another comparison image from Tubeprune's site ('59 vs A):
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Post by metrailway on Dec 29, 2010 1:01:37 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Dec 20, 2010 16:52:13 GMT
Wow, someone actually choosing to run 50year old stock as a heritage feature. Who'd have thunk it. ;D Chiltern actually threw a shindig for 121020 at Aylesbury. There was a jazz band, facepainting, a raffle and a ride on the 121 cost £1. Hopefully LU will do something for the A stock when it turns 50.
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Post by metrailway on Dec 20, 2010 16:13:16 GMT
there are several of these units at aylesbury,there is one still in use on the single track princes risborough,they call it a bubble car. Same builder and generic design, I think but not the same type. If I remember correctly, there are 4 departmental Class 121s, a departmental class 122, the 3 car Class 117 Chiltern sandite, and the blue Chiltern Class 121 020 for the Risborough shuttle stabled at Aylesbury. 121020 turned 50 in September. The 117 and 121s were built by Pressed Steel while the 122s were built by Gloucester RC&W. I have also heard that Chiltern have acquired another Class 121 to operate the Risborough shuttle 121 034
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Post by metrailway on Nov 30, 2010 19:55:51 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Nov 30, 2010 18:58:14 GMT
Marylebone for the 50th anniversary of the Institute of Locomotive Engineers Any pictures anywhere? If you can access the library, there is a pdf of the exhibition on IMechE which has a (very) short article on the A Stock archive.pepublishing.com/home/main.mpx
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Post by metrailway on Nov 30, 2010 18:44:51 GMT
Que? Wheel Slip Protection sometimes also Wheel Slide Protection
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Post by metrailway on Nov 27, 2010 17:58:54 GMT
Marylebone for the 50th anniversary of the Institute of Locomotive Engineers
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Post by metrailway on Nov 7, 2010 10:25:03 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Nov 6, 2010 23:12:19 GMT
so what does the routemap say? why is the zone 1 bit dashed? Not one I recognise... Zone 1 is dashed since back in the day the trains from the Met Main would only go onto the Circle during peak hours.
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Post by metrailway on Nov 1, 2010 13:57:10 GMT
The diversions this weekend are in relation to the Evergreen 3 project (at least that is what the timetable is headed as.) Not the first weekend they have operated it, and certainly won't be the last, except that we tend to only get the notice around Thursday of the week preceding the weekend it will operate. Hopefully those using Chiltern services get a little more notice. Most other times the "Birminghams" haven't stopped at Amersham, but for some reason this time they are. The are no services south of Banbury on the Chiltern Main Line this weekend (Brum trains going to Oxford instead), thus everyone south of Banbury will be using the Aylesbury line to get to London. Everyone north of Risborough will go to Aylesbury while Wycombe and Beaconsfield passengers will go to Amersham or Great Missenden to get their express train to London. So thats why the fasts to Aylesbury have intermediate stops at Amersham and Great Missenden this weekend.
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Post by metrailway on Oct 31, 2010 11:36:58 GMT
When the Tesco Tunnel at Gerrard's Cross collapsed in 2005, most, if not all, trains to/from Birmingham called at Aylesbury.
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Post by metrailway on Sept 14, 2010 10:32:57 GMT
Wow thats impressive
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Post by metrailway on Sept 13, 2010 11:39:54 GMT
Are there any special trains run from the Chiltern station to Marylebone these days in addition to the Underground? Yep, Chiltern ran their special Wembley Events timetable on Friday + Saturday
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Post by metrailway on Sept 12, 2010 19:06:48 GMT
I believe on the NR lines from Neasden Junction up to Harrow on the Hill the line speed goes up to 75 which the turbos reach really quickly. I also believe beyond that (but i could be wrong) that NR trains are permitted higher speeds than the 50 mph the A stock is limited to beyond Harrow on the Hill towards Amersham. I don't know what those speeds are as they aren't in the sectional appendix You are right that the Turbos are faster than the A Stock on LUL infrastructure. They're allowed to go up to 60mph between Harrow and Amersham. Speeds for the Turbos on the Aylesbury line are: Marylebone - Willesden Green - 50mph Willesden Green - Neasden Junction - 60mph Neasden - Harrow South - 75mph (then 60mph from Northwick Park for NB trains) Through Harrow - 40mph Harrow North - Watford South - 60mph Through Ricky - 25mph Ricky - Amersham - 60mph Amersham - Aylesbury - 75mph I believe that they were able to go full pelt (75mph) before 2003 (I think). I remember the time to reach Rickmansworth from Harrow would take only 7 mins
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Post by metrailway on Aug 18, 2010 11:38:08 GMT
If the Farringdon Street-Bishops Road stretch of line was just being built now, do you really think it would take just 35 months as it did in 1860-63? More like ten years, with the official openng probably having been put back two or three times Well the Met Rly was in existence since 1853 (as The Bayswater, Paddington and Holborn Bridge Railway Company) and construction only started in 1860, mainly due to funding problems. This is very similiar to the Croxley Rail Link where funding has been a massive problem and is probably the reason for the long timescale. Construction is planned to take 2 years
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Post by metrailway on Aug 16, 2010 19:06:42 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Aug 14, 2010 18:24:14 GMT
I intend to model the northern half of the Inner Circle so was wondering if anyone has diagrams of the stations between Aldgate/Aldgate East - Edgware Road/Finchley Road.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by metrailway on Aug 11, 2010 21:55:55 GMT
I'll miss looking out of the window viewing the lush greenery of metroland from the transverse seating, although I guess I could still do that with the turbos
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Post by metrailway on Jul 29, 2010 18:01:07 GMT
How busy are the Met lines between Harrow on the Hill to Amersham? According to East-West Rail Consortium www.eastwestrail.org.uk/reports/They want to send 1tph Milton Keynes to London Marylebone via Bletchley, Winslow, Aylesbury and High Wycombe (88 min) Could they realistically run this via Amersham as fast non stop between HotH to Amersham? They could, but I presume the reason why they are sending it via High Wycombe is to link the three major towns of Bucks together to provide a regional service. Also it's possible that they want to slow the service down to prevent it competing with the semi-fast London Midland services starting at Milton Keynes.
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Post by metrailway on Jul 13, 2010 15:52:56 GMT
I believe prior to the 1990s, it did not matter whether BR trains were fitted with tripcocks, as the class 115, which were used on the Chiltern Lines between 1960 and 1992 were not fitted with them.
When the first turbos came out in 1990/1, they were not fitted with tripcocks initially because they had ATP. BR tried to arrange some possessions with LU to install the system but this wasn't possible so they were all retro-fitted with tripcocks.
On a side note, Chiltern's ATP was installed at Northwood (maybe Northwood Hills?) for testing purposes to see if it would work with 4 rail track
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Post by metrailway on Apr 12, 2010 17:47:08 GMT
Oops - overlooked that rather major detail. I know that they ordered the Class 172s for local Chiltern Main services so assumed wrongly that the crossover would be used for local Metro services. Apologies.
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Post by metrailway on Apr 8, 2010 22:49:13 GMT
Some of you may have heard about Chiltern plans to upgrade their mainline to 100mph so Marylebone - Birmingham will be only 15 minutes slower than the WCML, plus a new Marylebone - Oxford service. Here is the planning application document concerning installation of a new down fast at South Ruislip (page 5): w09.hillingdon.gov.uk/images/dv_pl_files/66712_APP_2010_103/016_4.pdf The most interesting bit is that they will build a crossover at West Ruislip, indicating that they intend to run a local Marylebone - West Ruislip service.
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Post by metrailway on Mar 23, 2010 22:23:26 GMT
Were the locos used not private and thus maintained elsewhere and not by LU? On a side note GWR Pannier 9466 stayed at Neasden between 2002 and 2004 and had it's overhaul in the old steam shed. I remember being surprised when I first saw it during my morning commute!
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Post by metrailway on Jan 15, 2010 15:43:51 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Jan 10, 2010 12:59:53 GMT
I was just checking the Chiltern and tfl websites, and both state that Chiltern and Met Southbound services are not stopping at Ricky because of a damaged platform. Does anyone know how it got damaged and how bad is it?
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Post by metrailway on Jan 8, 2010 13:52:24 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Jan 8, 2010 13:45:11 GMT
Just to add - I'd think the A stock got a pretty thorough test early in life in 1963! True - this winter is nothing compared to '63!
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