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Post by ted672 on Dec 20, 2019 12:47:01 GMT
Why would they do this? It's unique..I appreciate they're short on space, but really?? My employers have offered buses to the LT Museum in the past and the response was along the lines that they generally only wanted "typical" examples of vehicles that had served London rather than prototypes or "firsts" or "lasts" (with three notable exceptions!). I do hope the car can be saved and while the Epping - Ongar line would be great, I don't believe they have the space.
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Post by ted672 on Dec 10, 2019 13:56:08 GMT
It was probably connected to the "football match" at The London Stadium. West Ham fans too distraught at another loss to walk!
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Post by ted672 on Nov 6, 2019 16:41:34 GMT
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Post by ted672 on Oct 4, 2019 11:39:12 GMT
While in the Station Development Section at 55 Broadway in 1976 I was able to trawl through a number of filing cabinets full of drawings and schematics. Among these were drawings for the extension to Waterloo. It's a shame mobile phones weren't around then, although I doubt the drawings would have been for public consumption. I wonder if they were eventually transferred to the LT Museum.
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Post by ted672 on Oct 3, 2019 18:51:21 GMT
Going back to the opening post, I too have memories of cab rides in 1938 stock, but not as a driver. While spending time as a Traffic Admin Trainee in the Station Development Section at 55 Broadway during 1976, I was provided with a cab pass for some of the projects I was tasked with. As '38 stock was my favourite from early childhood I didn't pass up the opportunity to travel up front. It was indeed a surreal experience and I soon learned that motormen were exceptionally skilled in knowing the road and where they may encounter problems. They seemed to hurtle along in full parallel relying only on knowledge and good eyesight to avoid being caught out. In this way I covered the Bakerloo and Northern lines,but not the Kennington loop with its ripe aroma. Great days indeed.
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Post by ted672 on Oct 3, 2019 15:57:48 GMT
If you mean Jim Blake's "Northern Wastes", he still has some copies left for purchase direct from himself. I'll take one. Do you have contact details? Only via Facebook at the moment. He's a frequent poster in the Londoner group (sorry, it's about buses!) but may also be contactable via Visions International for whom he has produced a number of books. Edit - I've now found a flyer for the Theydon Bois Tranport Enthusiasts' Bazaar on 12 October which gives Jim's contact details as: 8, The Rowans, London, N13 5AD or e-mail nleevents@outlook.com
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Post by ted672 on Oct 3, 2019 12:55:43 GMT
"Note wishing to be pedantic, but how many more books on this topic do we need? J.E. Connor has written a couple of brilliant books on the subject, and I wouldn't consider Ongar or Quainton Road 'Hidden' when they are preserved railways.Highgate High level was covered years ago by Jim Blak'es 'Northern Heights.'Sadly out of print."
If you mean Jim Blake's "Northern Wastes", he still has some copies left for purchase direct from himself.
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Post by ted672 on Aug 9, 2019 15:48:03 GMT
DLR’s current fleet of 146 Worldline SCAC4 Ticket Vending Machines (TVMs) was installed in 2008/9 and has reached ‘End of Life’. Only 10 years of planned life for TVMs? That's a bit surprising... It's not entirely surprising if it takes another five years or so to decide on replacement kit. It would be interesting to know why they've not gone for the new ones like those on TfL Rail stations.
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Post by ted672 on Aug 5, 2019 14:18:48 GMT
I'm not sure "Relive the 1950s" is accurate, the train provided is hardly typical of the era!
<<rincew1nd: duplicate post deleted>>
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Post by ted672 on Jun 14, 2019 14:12:05 GMT
I've just seen a short video of 1972 stock and wondered what would happen to this unit when access to the Aldwych branch is cut by the Holborn redevelopment. Will it be taken into the Bakerloo line fleet or become a heritage unit?
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Post by ted672 on May 23, 2019 11:31:07 GMT
That's correct. When the branch up to South Harrow was migrated to the new PICU (Piccadilly Interim Control Upgrade) system, the vast majority of semi-automatic station starters now hold trains to their timetable departure time. I wonder if this is part of the reason for slow driving on the Picc as mentioned a few times in this thread about SPADs districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/30624/spads?page=1&scrollTo=479773. Drivers are minimizing platform delays by taking time between stations.
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Post by ted672 on May 22, 2019 11:45:16 GMT
Yes - there was a tester at Stratford for a while during the 1990s resignalling. So that would explain the ones on platform six, however, platform 8 is TfL Rail, down electric. I noticed yesterday evening that in addition to the check rails about a flange width from the inside of the running rail, there's another set of rails to the outside of the running rails. Another odd thing is is that the adjacent track, platform 9, up main, doesn't have check rails over the same location.
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Post by ted672 on May 21, 2019 11:32:19 GMT
Can someone suggest why there are a pair of check rails toward the eastern end of platform 6 at Stratford? And while we're at it, there's a set around the middle of platform 8. These appear to line up with the subway beneath, but I can't think what the purpose would be. Perhaps the ones at the end of platform 6 are also above the easternmost subway, but again, I can't see the purpose.
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Post by ted672 on May 20, 2019 11:45:03 GMT
Dieselisation has reached the 'heritage' world now. It's not a new phenomenon - Hastings trolleybus 28 was converted to diesel-mechanical power around 1960.
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Post by ted672 on May 17, 2019 13:57:57 GMT
There was a 345 in the "Shenfield stub" about 0815 on Tuesday with the DMI reading "Heathrow T4" By coincidence I was at Chadwell Heath about 09:20 this morning and an announcement was broadcast advising passengers customers travelling towards Reading to ensure they had the correct pass/ticket/authority to travel beyond West Drayton. Perhaps the core will open in secret soon?
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Post by ted672 on Nov 21, 2018 20:46:40 GMT
There are some interesting points being raised here, that can also apply to any preserved electric multiple unit. If a simple form of delivering power to restored traction equipment can be devised (subject to appropriate safety standards presumably) then the possibilities are considerable - we could have 4 SUBs, 4 CEPs and any other exile from the erstwhile Electric Railway Museum available for people to enjoy. I believe there's an SR motor luggage van somewhere with a diesel generator that hauls a 4 CEP. And maybe some of Vivarail's technology could be adapted.
Anyway, whatever the outcome, it will be great to see the Q stock out and about.
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Post by ted672 on Nov 7, 2018 8:36:41 GMT
We could do with a place to re-erect worthy buildings as they have in Helsinki, or the Weald and Downland Museum here. We don't, that apart have a very enviable record...eg, the saving of Lawrence of Arabia's bungalow in the 1930s, and its re-erection (now unfortunately next to a set of diesel pumps) at Loughton. Perhaps this one could be reerected in a corner of the Olympic Park...after all, are supposed to be the relics of the Arch, in the Bow Back Rivers? I might support that idea, done sympathetically in the right place. Dropping a central London building onto a country halt, however,... It would be great if, instead of building a theme park in the vicinity of the Dartford Crossing, a London version of Beamish or the Black Country Museum could be constructed. Tubes, trams, trolleybuses.............. oh the joy!!! Anyone have a large lottery win that they can't think what to do with?
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Post by ted672 on Oct 9, 2018 19:03:14 GMT
According to the section in "Steam to Silver" by J Graeme Bruce, two 1923 stock cars were converted and the work done "late in 1939 also included the fitting of air-door control but the cars, being intended for one-man operation, had a special interlock circuit which prevented traction control being obtained until the driver had shut himself in the cab." It's not mentioned whether or not the doors were passenger operated.
The two cars were 4167 and 4176, which must have been confusing at times!
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Post by ted672 on Sept 25, 2018 10:53:46 GMT
Thanks for all the comments on the fanciful suggestion of using the current Glasgow stock on the Drain - I hadn't appreciated how much smaller the trains are than LU stock. I've finally viewed the video on YouTube and the new trains are quite impressive.
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Post by ted672 on Sept 21, 2018 19:35:20 GMT
Don't know if it's has been posted yet but Geoff Marshall you page has a video up where he doesn't put his feet on the seat! it hadn't, so voila ! Sadly the video won't play (even on YouTube direct). Hope it's fixed soon, it looks very interesting.
Also, could the surplus existing stock be adapted to run on the Waterloo and City line, thus releasing the '92 stock' to bolster the Central line?
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Post by ted672 on Jul 28, 2018 19:03:15 GMT
That is the oddest thing, but definitely thinking out of the box. There's a video of it here: Quite strange!
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Post by ted672 on Jul 20, 2018 11:39:49 GMT
Belated thanks for the explanations on the door stickers. I presume the curved platforms at Paddington will not be used once the service begins running through the tunnels.
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Post by ted672 on Jul 17, 2018 18:58:38 GMT
On recent journeys from Stratford to Romford I've noticed that the car I'm traveling in has stickers on all three sets of doors advising that they may not open at some stations. I would expect this at the ends of the train, however, I travel near the middle (in car 340 714 tonight)and that's about halfway along the train. Has Bill Stickers been over zealous, or is there a logical explanation?
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Post by ted672 on Jun 5, 2018 15:09:20 GMT
Thanks for the responses. I did wonder if the system was capable of "zero power" and/or "zero brake". It will be interesting to travel on the line when it's part manual and part ATO.
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Post by ted672 on Jun 5, 2018 11:58:55 GMT
With the early stages of ATO being introduced on the Sub Surface Railway, I was wondering whether the system employed allows trains to coast. My experience on the Central line is that trains are either under power or braking, which can result in an uncomfortable ride at times. There are some sections on the District line between Elm Park and West Ham where coasting is a regular event under manual driving and I was wondering if the comfort of the journey would be adversely affected by the change to ATO?
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Post by ted672 on May 9, 2018 15:05:01 GMT
It's an interesting plan for Ealing Broadway, however, had sufficient S stock been ordered, (probably too late to order more) it may have been better to transfer the Rayners Lane branch to the District. This would give common stock using the same signalling for the District and Met and also solve the Ealing Common depot and Chiswick Park issues. Or is that too simple an idea?
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Post by ted672 on Mar 9, 2018 16:54:52 GMT
It's rather sad indictment of the way these matters are considered solely by accountants. The current speculation around some of Dr Beeching's cuts being reversed should show that accountant's don't rule and that taking a punt is sometimes ultimately worthwhile.
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Post by ted672 on Mar 9, 2018 14:09:08 GMT
If the train service was more frequent, I'm sure it would generate more traffic. As it is, the current 20/40 service is hardly an incentive to use it when waiting time is potentially longer than the journey by bus. Sadly the entrepreneurial spirit of the Victorian age that led the lines to be built is lacking in this risk-averse world.
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Post by ted672 on Feb 27, 2018 8:25:06 GMT
The Isle of Wight Steam Railway has a collection of stock that ran on the island, the most recent of which dates from 1924. I believe they are shorter and slightly narrower than later mainline stock.
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Post by ted672 on Feb 21, 2018 8:41:31 GMT
Surely if the line was bought "as is" then it is the owner's prerogative to dispose of any assets that are no longer required. I don't see the need for implications of impropriety.
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