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Post by astock5000 on Dec 22, 2008 20:53:31 GMT
I have seen a photo of the end of 3010, taken in 1989, and it had a red cab end. What livery was it in (you can't see the side of the unit in the photo)? Also, was the unit just painted in an experimental livery, or was it a 'prototype refurbished' train?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2008 23:08:23 GMT
3010 and 3061 comprised the prototype 1967 Tube Stock refurbished train. The livery was blue above the waist line, white below and red cab ends.
The train was "launched" at an event at Acton Works with the assembled "great and good" on 13.09.89 alongside C69 unit 5585-6585 and A62 cars 5132-6132, all in the same livery.
3061+3110 was refurbished 'proper' as parts of Trains 3 and 4, arriving back in June and July 1992 in what had become the standard corporate livery.
As a matter of interest, my notes at the time say that 3061 (which came back to Ruislip with 3155 on 11.07.92) did not return by the normal route from Rosyth (i.e. via the Forth Bridge) so arrived at Ruislip the wrong way round. Its transfer to Northumberland Park on 14.07.92 took place via the T4 loop to get the train the right way round for Victoria Line service.
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Post by towerman on Dec 22, 2008 23:45:48 GMT
I was at Ruislip the day that arrived back,a Saturday,the project engineer looked very aggrieved when I told him the train was wrong way round.Also on that day 3264-3564(ex 3203,3501) came back from refurb and the 2nd train of 92 TS arrived.
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Post by metman on Dec 23, 2008 0:00:28 GMT
I'm suprised they didn't turn it on the Watford triangle, bit out of the way I guess!
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Post by towerman on Dec 23, 2008 3:28:12 GMT
I'd 've thought just running it up the Central & round the loop would've been easiest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2008 8:36:27 GMT
I know this may sound a bit thick but could someone tell me why the underground don't have a turntable or two somewhere, especially at Ruislip?
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 23, 2008 9:15:50 GMT
I'd 've thought just running it up the Central & round the loop would've been easiest. But to get to the Victoria, you need to use the Piccadilly, so the train would have to go through Acton Town, and Heathrow isn't that far away from there, compared with the Central loop, where you would have to go back through Ruislip depot to get to the Piccadilly. I know this may sound a bit thick but could someone tell me why the underground don't have a turntable or two somewhere, especially at Ruislip? Because all trains are permanently coupled into units, and you can only turn one car on a turntable. |
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Post by towerman on Dec 23, 2008 19:38:53 GMT
Personally the easiest move would've been Ruislip DepotEB-Hainault-Woodford-Ruislip Depot-Ruislip Sdg then up the Picc to Finsbury Pk then cross over to Vic Line.
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 23, 2008 20:05:35 GMT
Personally the easiest move would've been Ruislip DepotEB-Hainault-Woodford-Ruislip Depot-Ruislip Sdg then up the Picc to Finsbury Pk then cross over to Vic Line. Why would that have been easier? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2008 23:18:33 GMT
Irrespective of whether the Central Line route would have been better (probably not), I would assume that the 1967 Tube Stock would have had to be fitted with the high lift shoegear to go through the central area, hence not a viable option anyway.
One assumes that it must have had high lift shoegear when it worked on the Hainault - Woodford service until 1984. Transfers between Hainault and Northumberland Park were via Ealing Broadway (Central - District and vice versa).
The Pre-1938s that went from the Picc to the Central in 1960-61 had to be fitted with high-lift shoegear to negotiate the current rails in the central area tunnels and I assume the 1962 Stock had it as well?
Or am I barking up the wrong tree with this one?
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Post by towerman on Dec 24, 2008 0:09:55 GMT
67TS never had any modifications done to its' shoegear to run on the Central,the only tube stock barred from running in the old CLR tunnels was 38/49TS.
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Post by metman on Dec 24, 2008 0:29:21 GMT
I have read on several places that the 72ts stored at Hainault had to have its positive shoegear removed when dragged to Hainault by battery locos, so the 67ts would have had the same treatment perhaps?
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Post by towerman on Dec 24, 2008 1:55:46 GMT
No when the 67TS first came to Hainault from Ruislip they were moved under their own power and I personally travelled on Hainault-Northumberland Pk stock moves and nothing was done to the shoegear.As for 72TS,and also 73TS(ETT units) they were all moved to Hainault with shoegear intact.
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 24, 2008 9:24:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2008 10:15:32 GMT
Thanks for the info chaps!
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