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Post by glasgowdriver on Sept 1, 2008 15:45:03 GMT
hi anyone know what exactly has happened at baker street circle line and h&c been suspended all morning and still is at 5pm tonight thank god i ain't working today would have been a nightmare at my station
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2008 15:56:33 GMT
According to teh TFL website, it is due to flooding on the track, although it was saying due to signalling problems earlier.
Would seem interesting as there hasnt been much rain, but I am sure others will have more information.
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Post by 21146 on Sept 1, 2008 16:01:34 GMT
Burst 15" water main
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Post by Chris M on Sept 1, 2008 16:10:37 GMT
presumably this is just west of the station as the H&C are apparently reversing west to east at Baker Street, which is presumably what is causing the minor delays to the Met service?
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Post by 21146 on Sept 1, 2008 16:48:49 GMT
presumably this is just west of the station as the H&C are apparently reversing west to east at Baker Street, which is presumably what is causing the minor delays to the Met service? Yes The H&C was reversing in plat 2 but these have come off for the evening peak to allow a through Met Main service. c2000 there should be a Whitechapel-Kings Cross C Stock shuttle so get out there photographers to record a rare destination. |
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Post by glasgowdriver on Sept 1, 2008 17:45:18 GMT
there has been an ongoing water problem on the circle platforms at baker street for some time now aint there i remember when i worked at westmisnter amount of times those platforms got closed due to flooding was unreal
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Post by Tubeboy on Sept 1, 2008 17:56:14 GMT
There will be no Circle, no H&C Edgware Rd-Barking, and no Met past Baker Street after 2000hrs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2008 19:03:44 GMT
It took Thames Water 6 days to identify the correct water main which closed Baker Street Platform 6 over Christmas last year. |
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Post by DWS on Sept 1, 2008 19:17:10 GMT
It took Thames Water 6 days to identify the correct water main which closed Baker Street Platform 6 over Christmas last year. Well Thames Water use to own part of Metronet, before it went down the drain ;D |
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Post by Tubeboy on Sept 1, 2008 19:31:22 GMT
Amendment to my last post, it will be no Circle, and no H&C Edgware Rd-Kings X. No Met East of Baker Street.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Sept 1, 2008 20:39:19 GMT
Is there a scissors east of Baker Street where the Metropolitan meets the Circle and Hammersmith & City Line?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2008 20:46:39 GMT
I came through Kings Cross at about 19.05, and Digital Dylan was still going on about no H&C to Hammersmith. Spotted a pic of the burst water main in one of the evening papers discarded on a Piccawiggly service. Must have been about 12 inches deep!
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Post by metman on Sept 1, 2008 20:48:07 GMT
A double junction really. There is also a trailing x over east of this.
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Post by upfast on Sept 1, 2008 23:22:37 GMT
Earlier they were running a Whitechapel to Baker Street platform 2 service (more awkard than it sounds).
I hear that it was a storm sewer overflowing casued by the burst main?
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Post by swedishblue on Sept 2, 2008 10:46:23 GMT
It looks like a part suspension today again, although this time it's a "faulty track" at Aldgate East causing an H&C suspension from Plaistow to Barking. Don't know what the plan is there!
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Post by citysig on Sept 2, 2008 19:08:25 GMT
Yesterday, a burst water main compounded by blocked / leaking drainage (at one point, the water being pumped from track level, out to the street and down a drain, was ending up back where it started ;D )
Rumour has it that around 3 million gallons of water passed through the area just west of Baker Street platforms 5 and 6.
The Barking-Baker Street shuttle was taken off to allow the booked (4-minute) Met peak service to run without anything getting in its way. The King's Cross-Whitechapel service was run to allow an additional area of drainage to be worked on at Baker Street.
Today, although I wasn't at work at the time, the above mentioned suspension was probably related to a set of points that required attention at Aldgate East - a temporary speed restriction was put in force just prior to me leaving this morning. The TSR was quite low, and so more than likely resulted in the reduced / suspended service through the area.
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Post by Harsig on Sept 2, 2008 19:54:02 GMT
Today, although I wasn't at work at the time, the above mentioned suspension was probably related to a set of points that required attention at Aldgate East - a temporary speed restriction was put in force just prior to me leaving this morning. The TSR was quite low, and so more than likely resulted in the reduced / suspended service through the area. It did indeed. The plan was that all trains scheduled to reverse at Plaistow did so at Moorgate, while those scheduled to reverse at Barking did so at Plaistow. This had the twin effects of thinning out the service through Aldgate East and dealing with the late running of those services that did pass through the affected area. The upshot of this was the effective suspension of H&C services between Plaistow and Barking. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 6:06:21 GMT
... and the H&C kept reforming us out of work! It's been a nice leisurely week for the drivers so far!
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Post by citysig on Sept 3, 2008 8:13:44 GMT
... and the H&C kept reforming us out of work! It's been a nice leisurely week for the drivers so far! There now. I hope you make a very big note about that somewhere, ready for the weeks where it isn't as good or for those days where we couldn't do as much. |
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Post by Oracle on Sept 3, 2008 8:58:14 GMT
BBC Radio Solent mentioned at at 5.30 this morning that there was a signal failure at Edgware Road, causing delays on the H&C and Circle, but I don't think they mentioned the Womblewares.
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Post by upfast on Sept 3, 2008 9:04:09 GMT
BBC Radio Solent mentioned at at 5.30 this morning that there was a signal failure at Edgware Road, causing delays on the H&C and Circle, but I don't think they mentioned the Womblewares. Was a problem at Edgware Road with the starter on platform one. Half the District line continued to Edgware Road and the other half was diverted to Mansion House. |
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Post by SE13 on Sept 3, 2008 17:48:17 GMT
... and the H&C kept reforming us out of work! It's been a nice leisurely week for the drivers so far! Don't they find other tasks to occupy the downtime? Or is it a case of the canteen until told otherwise...? |
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Post by DWS on Sept 3, 2008 19:03:03 GMT
... and the H&C kept reforming us out of work! It's been a nice leisurely week for the drivers so far! Don't they find other tasks to occupy the downtime? Or is it a case of the canteen until told otherwise...? Do other tasks, no the Unions whould not have it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 21:09:22 GMT
There are a limited number of other activities that could be done, such as teamtalks or P&Ds (Performance & Development Reviews) but only if the DMTs are available to do them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2008 23:21:24 GMT
I suppose in times of disruption like this, when you have half the drivers being bone idle, you could stick them in the rear cabs of every running train and cut down reversal time? Kinda like stepping back but you're only driving one direction all day. Keeps them off the streets...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 6:07:08 GMT
I suppose in times of disruption like this, when you have half the drivers being bone idle, you could stick them in the rear cabs of every running train and cut down reversal time? Kinda like stepping back but you're only driving one direction all day. Keeps them off the streets... But who would drive the trains when they need to bring the service back in? We'd all be in rear cabs all over the line or doing whatever "other tasks" people see fit. Most of the delays caused around incidents such as these come afterwards with crews on short meal reliefs and being in the wrong place - ie not avaialble to pick up at a crew relief point or get to depot or sidings to bring one out. While people may not like the sound of us being "bone idle", it gets the job back up and running a lot quicker than if we werent. Ask any C&H driver; we're all sitting in that depot like the preverbial coiled spring... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 18:57:48 GMT
Ask any C&H driver; we're all sitting in that depot like the preverbial coiled spring... A C&H driver like a coiled spring - that is an image! I have never seen a C&H driver who got anywhere near that description. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 19:50:19 GMT
Oh it was only tongue in cheek, the bone idle comment. Sorry if I caused offence!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2008 19:54:53 GMT
Ask any C&H driver; we're all sitting in that depot like the preverbial coiled spring... A broken spring is perhaps a more appropriate term  |
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Post by trainopd78 on Sept 4, 2008 22:28:06 GMT
I've got to say, the Circle can be cancelled more often!! I Was a max of 2 minutes late all day and that was because of a (far to frequent) PEA on a train ahead. |
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