Extra Speakers for the 1967s

I don't see the point of making modifications to the 1967TS, as they will be replaced in the next few years.

Yup I must say wasn't a huge difference.

I suppose, Sstock5000, the new Vixxie trains won't be avalible until late 2009 which is a year and a half away (according to their most recent reply to me) and 1967s will still be used until 2012.

Late 2009? Weren't the first trains meant to enter service early 2009?

Where did you hear that? I thought it was early 2009. Also, be more careful when typing usernames!

According to the papers from the TfL board meeting, the first new Victoria Line train will be tested in service in January 2009. Got this info from here.

Are you sure this was a speaker?

It sounds more to me like the grill that covers the thermostat for the saloon heaters that was supplied when the stock was built. Having said that, the '67s no longer have any heaters fitted as they run in passenger service exclusively in (very hot) tunnels, but it may still be connected to the ceiling vent fans.

I would be surprised if they were retro-fitting a new speaker system with much of the stock nearing the end of its life. If they were going to fit a new PA system to the cars that might be earmarked for the Lakerboo, I would think they would wait until the stock is "refreshed" prior to transfer.

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Mr Thant's blog stating testing in passenger service in January 2009 is quoting directly from the TfL board papers for last month's meeting, so hopefully they know what they're talking about - or maybe Metronet haven't told them what they've told you!

Perhaps the Metronet late 2009 date refers to reliably regular service and/or entry into service of the first of the series production trains?

When the 1986 stock was 'tested in passenger service' on the Jubilee line its appearances were sporadic - they would regularly keep it on depot because of teething troubles, or carry out testing on the line but without passengers. Very frustrating when you were trying to get a ride on each of the different types!

I wouldn't be suprised if the new stock makes one or two outings in passenger service in Jan, then disappears from public view for a while, so that the headline target date of Jan 2009 passenger service is, at least nominally, met.

Yes, I believe that is correct - ISTR that train 1 is to be used for technical testing and will go back to the factory for fitting out and technical reworking once the stock is in full production; and that train 2 will used to determine the final production spec based on experience with it in passenger service, it will also be retrofitted to the final spec when the stock is in full production.

I'm guessing that TfL expect Metronet to deliver train 2 in the next few months, if it's to be prepared for passenger service in Jan. We shall see!

I note that the DLR's new stock is not in service five months after first delivery, although the Vic will have the advantage of experience with train 1 and less need to worry about electrical interference with other railways.