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Post by happybunny on Jun 26, 2008 16:30:33 GMT
As I understand it, in the peak hour NR trains on the Aylesbury line are generally longer than trains outside the peak hour (similar to many TOCs). Also I understand that these trains skip Rickmansworth station due to small platforms... however why can't they just open the doors on say half the train (for example the front 3 coaches)... and not release the others? Many other TOC's do this (for example the practice is quite common on SWT).
As long as the automated announcement machines are programmed to say something like "the next train to depart from platform one is the xxxx Chiltern Rail service to London Marylebone. Calling at *stations* ... passengers for Rickmansworth should board the front three coaches only, this is due to short platforms. This train is formed of six coaches (etc etc) " .. and this information is shown on the screen and announced on the in-train automated announcments, there shouldn't be a problem.
This would be a much better solution (I believe) than having to skip the station just because the platforms are a bit too short!
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Post by Tubeboy on Jun 26, 2008 16:45:26 GMT
Wouldnt the trains be pretty full by the time they get to Amersham, let alone Rickmansworth?
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Post by happybunny on Jun 26, 2008 18:10:16 GMT
I don't know, they still stop at Harrow..
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Post by Harsig on Jun 26, 2008 19:06:27 GMT
I don't know that it is anything to do with the length of the platforms. It is just the historical service pattern which has been in place for donkeys years. ( In the days when these trains served Moor Park that station was also non-stopped in the peak) .
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Post by abe on Jun 27, 2008 9:23:58 GMT
I suspect that it's not too much about the platforms, but about the loading. Chiltern trains are always heavily loaded in the peak hours, and this way it helps keep more capacity available for stations north of Amersham. It also reduces the journey time for these trains by a couple of minutes. There are a couple of Chiltern trains each evening rush hour that skip all stations until Amersham, even Harrow. That's in addition to those that have Great Missenden as their first call.
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Post by metman on Jun 27, 2008 16:45:21 GMT
Yes, most certainly to do with loading and wanting to cater for longer distance passengers! During the last stike, Chiltern trains skipped Ricky in the rush hours for just this reason!
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Post by ruislip on Jun 27, 2008 18:55:54 GMT
Are there still Mets that reverse at Ricky during the peaks?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2008 19:11:01 GMT
In the morning there is one that comes up n/b empty, runs into north sidings and enters into pax service at 07.33
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Post by c5 on Jun 27, 2008 19:12:30 GMT
In the morning there is one that comes up n/b empty, runs into north sidings and enters into pax service at 07.33 And is the first one to be cancelled due to No Ok Rolling Stock  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 13:55:14 GMT
Only if they want to deal with a strongly worded letter!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 16:31:55 GMT
As I understand it, in the peak hour NR trains on the Aylesbury line are generally longer than trains outside the peak hour (similar to many TOCs). Also I understand that these trains skip Rickmansworth station due to small platforms... however why can't they just open the doors on say half the train (for example the front 3 coaches)... and not release the others? Many other TOC's do this (for example the practice is quite common on SWT). As long as the automated announcement machines are programmed to say something like "the next train to depart from platform one is the xxxx Chiltern Rail service to London Marylebone. Calling at *stations* ... passengers for Rickmansworth should board the front three coaches only, this is due to short platforms. This train is formed of six coaches (etc etc) " .. and this information is shown on the screen and announced on the in-train automated announcments, there shouldn't be a problem. This would be a much better solution (I believe) than having to skip the station just because the platforms are a bit too short! The longest Chiltern diesel I have seen on the Met branch is 6 cars which should fit on all platforms.  |
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Post by Ben on Jun 29, 2008 17:06:32 GMT
An 8 car met is 23' shorter than a 6 car chiltern. A 5 carriage should fit though...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 18:18:26 GMT
As I understand it, in the peak hour NR trains on the Aylesbury line are generally longer than trains outside the peak hour (similar to many TOCs). Also I understand that these trains skip Rickmansworth station due to small platforms... however why can't they just open the doors on say half the train (for example the front 3 coaches)... and not release the others? Many other TOC's do this (for example the practice is quite common on SWT). As long as the automated announcement machines are programmed to say something like "the next train to depart from platform one is the xxxx Chiltern Rail service to London Marylebone. Calling at *stations* ... passengers for Rickmansworth should board the front three coaches only, this is due to short platforms. This train is formed of six coaches (etc etc) " .. and this information is shown on the screen and announced on the in-train automated announcments, there shouldn't be a problem. This would be a much better solution (I believe) than having to skip the station just because the platforms are a bit too short! The longest Chiltern diesel I have seen on the Met branch is 6 cars which should fit on all platforms. There is an issue at amersham p2 where if the driver lines up with the opo equipment the rear doors open but there's no platform! Arrangements have to be made for the train to go slighty past the opo equipment and then it becomes possible for all doors to open onto the platform |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2008 14:06:10 GMT
I don't know that it is anything to do with the length of the platforms. It is just the historical service pattern which has been in place for donkeys years. ( In the days when these trains served Moor Park that station was also non-stopped in the peak) . Ricky cant take a 6 car chiltern either north or south, which is why they non stop on the south in the morning peak and viccy vercy ib the evening. |
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Post by knap on Jul 7, 2008 13:02:10 GMT
I was on a six car Chiltern service - 17:27 last Thursday which stopped at Rickmansworth
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2008 18:44:43 GMT
I was on a six car Chiltern service - 17:27 last Thursday which stopped at Rickmansworth It would have been slightly passed the OPO monitors at the north end and it would be overhanging at the south end too though, which is why they try not to get into that position |
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Post by knap on Jul 8, 2008 12:26:29 GMT
I was at the front and I think we did go past the monitors. there was also a chap in an orange bib on the platform, he may have been assisting the driver. No idea if the back was overhanging
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Post by wellgroomed on Jul 10, 2008 14:02:42 GMT
The 1727 on Thursday 3 July was a 4 car 165.
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Post by knap on Jul 10, 2008 16:23:10 GMT
I stand corrected then. I was sure there were 6 cars on platform 1 at Marylebone, all looked powered up, I assumed all formed the train
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