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Post by ruislip on May 7, 2008 22:04:16 GMT
Prior to March 1959, how many tph's were booked as far as Uxbridge during the weekday midday period? Also, I read where regular South Harrow reversers, though few and far between, ended in 1961. Did these trains operate off-peak, during the peaks, weekends,  |
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Post by superteacher on May 7, 2008 22:28:58 GMT
Prior to March 1959, how many tph's were booked as far as Uxbridge during the weekday midday period? Also, I read where regular South Harrow reversers, though few and far between, ended in 1961. Did these trains operate off-peak, during the peaks, weekends, Always thought the idea of regular South Harrow reversers to be a bit odd. Surely Rayners Lane would have been a more logical place. Did they have Uxbridge, Rayners and South Harrow reversers at the same time? |
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Post by ruislip on May 7, 2008 22:47:42 GMT
All I remember (from Capital Transport's line histories and Part 2 of LURS's publication on Standard Stock) is that even after the Picc was extended in 10/1933 to Uxbridge, South Harrow was still a regular reversing point. Gradually, Rayners Lane became the primary reversing point for short-working Piccies on the Uxbridge branch some time during WWII. There were even Mets that used the then-new reversing siding at Rayners; for example some peak hour trains to London that stopped at all the stations between Wembley Park and Finchley Rd, and all stations between Finchley Rd and Baker St. Even after regular reversing took place at Rayners, a smaller number of Piccies reversed at South Harrow until 1961.; and I'm wondering when these were timetabled. I also recall, from my Underground Guide collection, that daily except Sunday a Piccy originated at South Harrow bound for Cockfosters; this train ran about 10 minutes before the first ex-Rayners Lane train. Also at the end of service on Monday-Saturday there was a Cockfosters-South Harrow train that ran after all the trains to Rayners and beyond stopped. On Sundays this South Harrow service originated at either Acton Town or Hammersmith.
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Post by mrfs42 on May 9, 2008 0:24:54 GMT
Did they have Uxbridge, Rayners and South Harrow reversers at the same time? Yes! There are several pages in the 1938 WTT I'm looking at that score the treble. ;D |
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Post by railtechnician on May 9, 2008 16:39:50 GMT
Prior to March 1959, how many tph's were booked as far as Uxbridge during the weekday midday period? Also, I read where regular South Harrow reversers, though few and far between, ended in 1961. Did these trains operate off-peak, during the peaks, weekends, Always thought the idea of regular South Harrow reversers to be a bit odd. Surely Rayners Lane would have been a more logical place. Did they have Uxbridge, Rayners and South Harrow reversers at the same time? I don't see why, South harrow was I think a booking on point into the 1980s, I still recall the running SM based there when I installed additional comms equipment there in 1980/1 although I don't know when it ceased to be a booking on point. |
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Post by hobbayne on May 10, 2008 12:23:37 GMT
South Harrow depot was closed circa 1991/2 when the company plan came in.
All the drivers (as it was opo then) went to Acton Town and were incorparated into the roster.
Both Acton and Northfields contiued as separate depots until Bollo House opened in 1996 ;D
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Post by superteacher on May 10, 2008 13:59:56 GMT
Always thought the idea of regular South Harrow reversers to be a bit odd. Surely Rayners Lane would have been a more logical place. Did they have Uxbridge, Rayners and South Harrow reversers at the same time? I don't see why, South harrow was I think a booking on point into the 1980s, I still recall the running SM based there when I installed additional comms equipment there in 1980/1 although I don't know when it ceased to be a booking on point. Ok, it was a booking on point and crew depot, but it doesn't mean that trains had to terminate there (unless stabling, of course!) |
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Post by railtechnician on May 11, 2008 1:18:24 GMT
South Harrow depot was closed circa 1991/2 when the company plan came in. All the drivers (as it was opo then) went to Acton Town and were incorparated into the roster. Both Acton and Northfields contiued as separate depots until Bollo House opened in 1996 ;D Yes but some drivers continued to book on at Northfields for at least another year. I began working out of Bollo House myself in 1996 within a few weeks of it being open. Strangely we were considering moving the Acton signal maintenance depot to the old running offices at Northfields station where we already had a satellite depot on the ground floor but it never happened because the building didn't comply with fire regulations and compliance would've been rather expensive. |
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Post by littlecog on May 16, 2008 2:26:53 GMT
Wasn't the arrangement of services a historical hangover - the District line specifically being granted the powers to run beyond South Harrow and not any other line led to the use of it as a terminating point for the Piccadilly when they shared things? This being the 1930s, mind.
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Post by JR 15secs on May 16, 2008 10:56:14 GMT
Wasn't the arrangement of services a historical hangover - the District line specifically being granted the powers to run beyond South Harrow and not any other line led to the use of it as a terminating point for the Piccadilly when they shared things? This being the 1930s, mind. It just wasn't Northfield's that had hangovers from the past, when I was a driver at Acton P the District & Picc crews sat opposite sides in the canteen normally only sat together to play cards with the postmen from Hounslow. When my bardic lamp became defective the SM asked if I would mind what lamp would replace it I only wanted a bardic and not a pifco the bardic the SM gave me had Acton Town on each side but with DR in brackets don't forget bardics only started in the 1960's on LT. |
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Post by ruislip on May 16, 2008 17:50:20 GMT
Wasn't the arrangement of services a historical hangover - the District line specifically being granted the powers to run beyond South Harrow and not any other line led to the use of it as a terminating point for the Piccadilly when they shared things? This being the 1930s, mind. This "hangover" was overcome when the LTPB was formed in July 1933. Three months later through Piccadilly running was introduced all the way to Uxbridge. |
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