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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2008 22:12:24 GMT
recently thanks to tubelines I have noticed alot of problems on the 1995 stock including:
rattling air vents (maybe not a big prob but still sounds a bit bad)
defective motors
non working door buzzers
slowly peeling floor
very dirty interior
non working LED desto display screens
weird compressor noises
I know they are trying (miserably) to transform our tube but they are not really maintaining the trains properly and after recent rides on the JL the 96 stock are not far behind either
but strangley the 1973 stock seem fine
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 21, 2008 0:24:23 GMT
Late last year Tubelines signed an agreement worth several millions with Alstom to modify the PFI agreement, the main proviso being to make more trains available for service. Clearly the original PFI agreement was not stringent, as all these faults have occurred over the years and got steadily worse. From what I have read/heard, the achilles heel of the 95ts is door failures, with the mechanisms being clogged up with dirt, not surprising as most of the line is below the surface. The other faults you describe I have noticed, particularly the LCD destination displays being blank or very faint. As to the non working door buzzers, I am unsure as to what you are referring to? You mean the door chimes, or the door open/close buttons, if its the latter, the T/op operates the doors anyway. Anyway, hopefully this modified service agreement will bear fruit very soon. I find the vibrating air vents particularly annoying!  |
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Post by edwin on Apr 21, 2008 11:52:59 GMT
If the doors keep getting lodged with dirt it seems LU should maybe one day think of (shock horror) cleaning the tunnels?
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Post by Tubeboy on Apr 21, 2008 14:11:54 GMT
When the doors open, and your on the train, you should see the muck thats on the back of them! How about converting a 95ts into a Northern Tunnel cleaning train?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 14:42:57 GMT
The rate of train failures on the Northern line has recently improved a great deal. I believe part of this is down to the pressure put on Alstom because the failure rate had been quite abysmal. Another factor which I've already posted about is the new timetable which has made it possible for the depots to get most of the trains they want back - by taking out the step-backs at Morden, trains which have been put on a stabling path stay on a stabling path and don't get reformed.
The doors issue I believe is also being looked at, it doesn't seem to have been as bad easily. Trains coming into service through the wash at Morden was a major issue as water got mixed in with the grease and dirt and caused massive amounts of door failures first thing in the morning.
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Post by Ben on Apr 21, 2008 15:31:55 GMT
Are exterior mounted doors more reliable than or as reliable as pocket sliding ones?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2008 16:15:38 GMT
well tubeboy yeah it was the lcd destination screens I was reffering to and the door chimes
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Post by astock5000 on Apr 22, 2008 15:26:46 GMT
When the doors open, and your on the train, you should see the muck thats on the back of them! I have noticed this on the 1992 stock as well. Also, when the doors open, and your on the platform, you can see the muck on the side of the train through the window in the door. |
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Post by david3383 on May 5, 2008 20:06:16 GMT
recently thanks to tubelines I have noticed alot of problems on the 1995 stock including: rattling air vents (maybe not a big prob but still sounds a bit bad) defective motors non working door buzzers slowly peeling floor very dirty interior non working LED desto display screens weird compressor noises I know they are trying (miserably) to transform our tube but they are not really maintaining the trains properly and after recent rides on the JL the 96 stock are not far behind either but strangley the 1973 stock seem fine Erm, I was on the Northern line today and the 95s seemed fine to me. They're certainly in better shape than the C Stock trains. |
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Post by stanmorek on Jun 28, 2008 11:07:49 GMT
Travelling on the Northern line on leaving Hendon Central. As the last car travelled over a rail joint the jolt caused a pair of doors to spring open 2 inches momentarily.
I understand that there is a pilot light detector that causes the train to stop should doors open when in motion?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 16:50:34 GMT
Travelling on the Northern line on leaving Hendon Central. As the last car travelled over a rail joint the jolt caused a pair of doors to spring open 2 inches momentarily. I understand that there is a pilot light detector that causes the train to stop should doors open when in motion? Not quite - unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't apply emergency brakes, it simply cuts out the motors. So the train will still travel forward if it was already moving, but it'll be coasting. If the doors closed again immediately, the driver would simply have restroked the handle and started the motors up again. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2008 17:50:26 GMT
recently thanks to tubelines I have noticed alot of problems on the 1995 stock including: rattling air vents (maybe not a big prob but still sounds a bit bad) defective motors non working door buzzers slowly peeling floor very dirty interior non working LED desto display screens weird compressor noises I know they are trying (miserably) to transform our tube but they are not really maintaining the trains properly and after recent rides on the JL the 96 stock are not far behind either but strangley the 1973 stock seem fine Erm, I was on the Northern line today and the 95s seemed fine to me. They're certainly in better shape than the C Stock trains. yeah but I wrote this a few weeks ago and recently like you say they have been ok except this uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9K9u0MKtg&feature=email video I put on you tube we spotted this a few weeks ago but we saw it again last saturday in the same condition btw could anyone please tell me what that noise is? |
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Post by ducatisti on Jun 30, 2008 8:15:34 GMT
Quite oddly, I saw some 95 stock last week where someone had managed to write in the grime behind the door. (That you see through the door window when it's open).
It was only after it had pulled out that I realised that I couldn't work out how they did it...
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Post by angelislington on Jul 4, 2008 12:47:51 GMT
MRFS and I were puzzling over just that, when we took the Northern up to Stockwell from Morden on Sunday. We were sitting at the end of the car, in the first two seats next to the opening door. When it was open, you could see a sticker through the window on the inside of the door. I have *no* idea how it was done. We concluded it must have happened when it was made  |
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Post by Chris M on Jul 5, 2008 10:53:19 GMT
The only way I can think to do it would involve the window not being there, but smashing a window is not an easy task (are they double skinned on the 95 stock?) and also very extreme. The window would almost certainly be replaced with the door shut so whoever replaced it wouldn't see it
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