Standard stock trailers running in 38s

Weren't the trailers not very old compared to the 1938ts?

9-car trains were going to be used on the Northern Line so extra trailers and DMs were delivered as a result. When the 9-car scheme was dumped there were plenty of Driving Motors left, so they put a converted standard stock trailer between them. The 1949 order also helped to utilise the left over cars that couldn't be integrated into units.

Sadly, the 27 stock trailers were found to be less than robust and the first was scrapped after telescoping in a collision near Watford High St in the 1960s after a run in with a 501!

They had similar Standard type cars in the middle of the Woodford Hainault shuttle when I used to catch it from Woodford to Roding Valley (I was very lazy). I remember the appalling ride quality and the smoky smell although that was the excuse I used to come up with to mask the whiff of my actual smoking from my parents when I got in from school!

I have also had the misfortune to travel in these as well, maybe they looked good on your photos but from my experience the refurb and re paint was appalling.

These were photos when recently upgraded, so if you and whistlekiller say they looked horrible I'll go with you! After all I never travelled on them! They survived into the late 70s/early 80s so the cars would have been 50 years old plus!!

Speak of the devils...
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I thought that actually the converse of this was the case. The 9 car trains were designed to work as block formations, without the ability to uncouple to something shorter in the off peaks, but provision was made for them to be uncoupled into 7 and 2 car portions in the event of an emergency. As I understand it, the 49TS UNDMs were used in a rather complex series of reformations to release one standard DM from a 3 car unit, which was then used with cars from the 9 car trains to form further 3 car units formed DM - T - UNDM. In any case, the 9 car sets were reduced to 7 car block trains on the outbreak of war and so there were a number of stored cars that were accounted for by the 1949 scheme.




Wasn't this to do with the fact that the ultimate plan on the Central was to go for 8 car trains with four motor cars, implying a 50/50 mix of motors and trailers? This resulted in a number of control trailers being surplus as such and converted to trailer cars as well as the 58 spare 1927 trailers incorporated in the 38TS programme.

The Standard Stock trailers were planned for incorporation into 1938TS formations after the all-motor car train idea was abandoned. They were indeed spare from the Central Line Standard Stock allocation as PGtrips says.

You mean the lovers' seats?

I've seen photos of them in use, but regretfully I'm too young...