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Jan 12, 2008 20:00:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2008 20:00:31 GMT
New timetable starts tomorrow, with Heathrow trains split equally after Hatton X. Six an hour via T4, six an hour via 123, where they will detrain and run empty to T5 for training purposes. There will be up to three stablers at South Harrow each night, so make that three trains cancelled for graffiti next morning then  There will also be trains reversing via Hammersmith sidings in the mornings to relieve congestion in the Acton Town area. |
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Jan 12, 2008 20:13:41 GMT
Post by c5 on Jan 12, 2008 20:13:41 GMT
New timetable starts tomorrow, with Heathrow trains split equally after Hatton X. Six an hour via T4, six an hour via 123, where they will detrain and run empty to T5 for training purposes. Mind the gap between trains then ;D  When T5 opens, T4 will have the less priority than the Rayner's branch apparently - about time too! There will be up to three stablers at South Harrow each night, so make that three trains cancelled for graffiti next morning then The one train that stables there at present is fine. It's the one at Acton that is usually done. There will also be trains reversing via Hammersmith sidings in the mornings to relieve congestion in the Acton Town area. ;D ;D ;D ;D AT LAST! ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Jan 12, 2008 23:33:08 GMT
Post by Tomcakes on Jan 12, 2008 23:33:08 GMT
But then won't that just shift the problem to Barons Court...? Or do they intend to put extra assistants on the platform to chuck out the train in double quick time?
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Jan 12, 2008 23:47:07 GMT
Post by c5 on Jan 12, 2008 23:47:07 GMT
But then won't that just shift the problem to Barons Court...? Or do they intend to put extra assistants on the platform to chuck out the train in double quick time? They run empty. At the moment they sit outside Acton waiting for trains to leave the sidings, as well as having trains come out both ends of Ealing Common on the district. |
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Jan 13, 2008 0:29:25 GMT
Post by Tomcakes on Jan 13, 2008 0:29:25 GMT
What're they there for then? Positioning runs?
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Jan 13, 2008 7:40:59 GMT
Post by c5 on Jan 13, 2008 7:40:59 GMT
Yes, they come up from Northfields and reverse.
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Jan 13, 2008 11:31:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 11:31:37 GMT
Do the times of the first/last trains to/from Heathrow via central London change then as well?
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Jan 13, 2008 11:33:43 GMT
Post by SE13 on Jan 13, 2008 11:33:43 GMT
So, there will be 12 an hour running to Heathrow. How many are running to Uxbridge?
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Jan 13, 2008 15:32:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 15:32:50 GMT
Do the times of the first/last trains to/from Heathrow via central London change then as well? From what I can tell, there are no significant differences. There might be a slight change at Heathrow 123 and 4 due to the running times changing, obviously. |
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Jan 13, 2008 15:35:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 15:35:34 GMT
So, there will be 12 an hour running to Heathrow. How many are running to Uxbridge? 6 for the Uxbridge branch, probably? |
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Jan 13, 2008 16:05:44 GMT
Post by superteacher on Jan 13, 2008 16:05:44 GMT
So, there will be 12 an hour running to Heathrow. How many are running to Uxbridge? 6 for the Uxbridge branch, probably? Am assuming three will be Rayners and three Uxbridge. Am also assuming that they will still have the Arnos - Northfields "shorts". |
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Jan 13, 2008 19:48:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 19:48:34 GMT
6 for the Uxbridge branch, probably? Am assuming three will be Rayners and three Uxbridge. Am also assuming that they will still have the Arnos - Northfields "shorts". Trains are indeed split on the Rayners branch as you have said, and the "short" trains are still there. Also, as the DVA/dot matrix will not be updated until passenger traffic starts to T5 in March, all trains will on the Heathrow branch will continue to be described as going to H123. In the cab we have two cards, one showing "Terminals 123 direct", with the other "Via Terminal 4". Depending on where the train, the relevant card will be displayed in the off side windscreen. |
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Jan 13, 2008 20:27:57 GMT
Post by Oracle on Jan 13, 2008 20:27:57 GMT
Is there any change to the use of the Local Lines, Northfields-Acton Town, and indeed Acton Town Local EB and WB platforms?
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Jan 13, 2008 21:08:30 GMT
Post by Tomcakes on Jan 13, 2008 21:08:30 GMT
Am assuming three will be Rayners and three Uxbridge. Am also assuming that they will still have the Arnos - Northfields "shorts". Trains are indeed split on the Rayners branch as you have said, and the "short" trains are still there. Also, as the DVA/dot matrix will not be updated until passenger traffic starts to T5 in March, all trains will on the Heathrow branch will continue to be described as going to H123. In the cab we have two cards, one showing "Terminals 123 direct", with the other "Via Terminal 4". Depending on where the train, the relevant card will be displayed in the off side windscreen. Bets on how long they are kept up to date now being taken... ;)? |
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Jan 13, 2008 23:34:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 23:34:36 GMT
Also, as the DVA/dot matrix will not be updated until passenger traffic starts to T5 in March, all trains will on the Heathrow branch will continue to be described as going to H123. In the cab we have two cards, one showing "Terminals 123 direct", with the other "Via Terminal 4". Depending on where the train, the relevant card will be displayed in the off side windscreen. Cards?  That's a bit low tech! |
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Jan 14, 2008 1:17:00 GMT
Post by c5 on Jan 14, 2008 1:17:00 GMT
Is there any change to the use of the Local Lines, Northfields-Acton Town, and indeed Acton Town Local EB and WB platforms? No changes, the Northfields Locals still run. The (off peak Mon-Fri )service pattern will be: 6tph Cockfosters - Heathrow T123 (then to T5, they currently detrain at T123) 6tph Cockfosters - Heathrow T4 (stand, then to T123) 3tph Cockfosters - Uxbridge 3tph Cockfosters - Rayner's Lane 3tph Arnos Grove - Northfields Monday evening will be the real test of this new WTT! |
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Jan 25, 2008 1:30:06 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 1:30:06 GMT
Has the last train through central London changed at all, as I'm sure I rang up TfL before the new WTT started and it was 00:25 from KGX to Arnos, but tonight they said 00:45!  |
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Jan 25, 2008 1:51:18 GMT
Post by c5 on Jan 25, 2008 1:51:18 GMT
Dave,
it's 00.45 on the east and 00.24 on the west ex Kings Cross
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Jan 25, 2008 12:39:28 GMT
Post by Colin on Jan 25, 2008 12:39:28 GMT
I'm sure I recall the last eastbound from Earls Court was at 0023 & the last westbound ex Earls Court was 0047.........mind you, that was about 5 years ago!! ;D ;D ;D ;D On that basis though, the times JTD's gives look quite correct EDIT: actually, seeing a syou've got net access (ie, if you can read this, you must have  ;D ;D), you could simply look at the last times via the T fL website www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/1129.aspx |
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Jan 25, 2008 14:06:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2008 14:06:01 GMT
Has the last train through central London changed at all, as I'm sure I rang up TfL before the new WTT started and it was 00:25 from KGX to Arnos, but tonight they said 00:45!??? It certainly still gets to our stations at the same times - it arrives at Arnos at around 01:05 (give or take a minute either way, possibly...), and the journey from King's Cross to Arnos is about 20 minutes, so 00:45 looks about correct... are you sure you did not have a Sunday time in mind? |
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Jan 25, 2008 16:08:01 GMT
Post by c5 on Jan 25, 2008 16:08:01 GMT
Mine are definatly correct. No doubt about it!
(Mon-Fri definatly)
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Jan 25, 2008 16:25:20 GMT
Post by 10thtower on Jan 25, 2008 16:25:20 GMT
Trains are indeed split on the Rayners branch as you have said, and the "short" trains are still there. Also, as the DVA/dot matrix will not be updated until passenger traffic starts to T5 in March, all trains will on the Heathrow branch will continue to be described as going to H123. In the cab we have two cards, one showing "Terminals 123 direct", with the other "Via Terminal 4". Depending on where the train, the relevant card will be displayed in the off side windscreen. But the platform indicators (at least at Russell Square) are saying (somewhat confusingly) Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 & 5 or Heathrow Terminal 4 |
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Jan 26, 2008 1:28:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2008 1:28:23 GMT
But the platform indicators (at least at Russell Square) are saying (somewhat confusingly) Heathrow Terminals 1,2,3 & 5 or Heathrow Terminal 4 Wood Green's have also changed. A couple of spares went on a trip all the way to Heathrow recently to note down what was on each dot matrix as they went through - I was also spare that day and *severely* depressed at not being asked to go; anyone at Arnos that morning after they went will have heard some of my stupidest PA's ever as I tried to get over it. |
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That's a bit low tech!
;D ;D), you could simply look at the last times via the TfL website 
