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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 6, 2008 22:22:12 GMT
This might belong in the historical section, mind....
When was Green Park siding taken out? It was used a lot for off- peak reversers in about 1959/60, together with Barons Court.
However the running time seems virtually identical to Down Street reversers, so I'm wondering if it is a series of galley errors in the WTT.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 8:55:01 GMT
Well the only siding I know about by Green Park IS Down Street so it must be referring to that one. Running time from Green Park to Down St. is probably less than a minute.
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Post by railtechnician on Jan 7, 2008 11:59:58 GMT
There is definitely no Green Park siding and never was. Green park reversers would have run into Down Street siding. Standing on the staff platform on each road at Down Street it is possible to see the Green Park platforms quite clearly so yes the running time is less than a minute.
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Post by Oracle on Jan 7, 2008 12:58:46 GMT
Years ago on MASTERMIND a contestant answered questions on the Underground. One of the cock-ups, I think by the question-setter, was Green Park formerly being known as DOVER Street and not Down Street. I am sure that this causes confusion today.
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Post by railtechnician on Jan 7, 2008 23:09:50 GMT
Years ago on MASTERMIND a contestant answered questions on the Underground. One of the cock-ups, I think by the question-setter, was Green Park formerly being known as DOVER Street and not Down Street. I am sure that this causes confusion today. Yes of course Down Street remains visible both at Street and track level whereas as Dover Street is only visible at street level although the average person wouldn't recognise it. At the bottom of the lift shafts the old passageways are extant and these days house equipment rooms.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jan 8, 2008 0:40:30 GMT
I was fairly sure that there had never been a siding at 'Green Park' - it could only have been 'Down Street' - there was only 0.5min added/subtracted to the time from Picc. Circus.
Even when there are trains stabling in Down Street Siding, there is no mention of the distance from Picc. Circus - admittedly what might be confusing me is that for most of the 1940s I can only find Sundays Only TTs which didn't have the full information.
OK, so I'll rephrase the question: why did Down Street become Green Park? By 28/11/38 (date of publication of District WTT17) plans were already in hand to turn Down Street to another use.
Might I be asking a question that no-one was allowed to divulge the answer? However thank-you all for confirming my suspicions - even though I gave you the bait of 'galley errors' ;D
EDIT: Even though District WTT 17 has 2 trains stabling in Down St, (one after the other, but it is a loooong siding) there is no reference to its geographical location in the WTT..........
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 7:34:38 GMT
IIRC Down Street closed in 1932 and was used by the War Cabinet (some bits are still there). Also Dover Street was the old name for Green Park I think.
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Post by Oracle on Jan 8, 2008 8:11:03 GMT
If the buildings are still there, Down Street surface buildings are instantly recognisable.
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Post by c5 on Jan 8, 2008 8:25:30 GMT
Both Dover Street and Down Street's street level buildings are still visable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2008 9:42:18 GMT
IIRC Down Street closed in 1932 and was used by the War Cabinet (some bits are still there). Also Dover Street was the old name for Green Park I think. DOC Down Street and Dover Street were close to each other, and neither attracted much traffic. For much of the day, alternate trains skipped one station. In the 1930s, LU started replacing lifts with escalators. But lifts go straight down, while escalators are at an angle. So a new surface station building was constructed about half way between Down Street and Dover Street, connected by escalator to the Dover Street platforms. When this opened, it was called Green Park. Down Street closed.
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