Picc to Ealing Broadway

I think Barons Court Siding is interesting in that at the north/east end the track has three routes: to the EB Picc: to/from the WB Picc, and straight ahead into a sand drag. [PS: the same evidently applies at the Hammersmith end] On the Auto-Tube Rambler tour the 8-car Victoria train left the EB Picc at Hammersmith and then tried to reverse into the WB Picc but the rear car fouled the points or could not be cleared by the signaller. The signaller thus had to set the route for the small section leading to the sand drag and the train thus shunted forward to allow the points to be set for the WB platform.

I know that WB trains can run through the Siding to end up in the EB Picc at Hammersmith, but can they do so in passenger service? Can it also be accessed from the EB District at Hammersmith and afford access to the WB as well? Fron what I could see last Sunday from the Picc WB you could access the Siding from Hammersmith's EB District.

And you have to make sure that you fully draw up to coloured light signal in the siding, otherwise you will not clear the points. This happened a few months back to a defective 73ts, but it wasn't noticed by the "senior"member of staff on board!.

DVA code numbers exist for both EBY and T5, although we can't use them. I'm guessing T5 will not be able to be entered until passenger trains start running.

Not quite. There is no big change to the timetable, except for the change at Heathrow. Those Oakwoods only run during or just after the peak when the pattern is (in the peaks):
Every 5 mins to Heathrow (split between T4 and T123 & 5)
Every 5 mins to Rayner's Lane (then with the trains either turning there or at Ruislip or Uxbridge)

Join the Dots;;

That was only my prediction...

I complicated things by trying to include the forgotten Oakwood.

Basically Its exactly the same as it is now (and I do it by trains per hour and nooot by minit):

i.e. 12 to H
3 to U
3 to R
6 between A and N

but the 12 to Heathow will be split 50 : 50

6 to T5
6 to T123 via 4.

Dont know how the front train and DMI will cope i.e. "THis train is for Heathrow Airport" because that will have two choices now (im not sure if that can be updated and I'm regarding the display at the front of the trains when connected to the DMI with the DVA switched off).

Obviously the Picc DVA can integrate its terminal 5 code. Not sure about "Terminal 123 via 4?"

See the confusion on the Central when the following 3 trains were shown on the dot matrix a while back:

1. Hainault via Woodford
2. Woodford via Hainault
3. Hainault via Newbury Park

Hainault via Woodford is quite rare (usually to reposition trains after disruption), but there were some confused looking faces. I will try to get down to the west end of the Picc this weekend to see what happens there!

It would be far simpler to have destinations on the front as T4 & T123 or T123 & T5 as appropriate even though there would be waiting time at T4, it should certainly be less confusing to the uninitiated!

What is it? I mean above I quite clearly showed the present services which i shall repeat in case you misread:

12tph HEA
6tph ARN-NOR
3tph R-L
3tph UXB

Any objections please do me a favour and edit wikipedia's page.

So basically the future predictions which You posted (goodness knows why 3tph are missing from ARN-RAY but Im not an expert) are pretty much the same as Heathrow will recieve 12 tph but will be split 50:50. Perhaps I confused thee





Actually currently the DMIs when linked to the front display with the simulataneus Dot Matrix Upgrades/DVA switched off, it reads "This train is for Heathrow Airport" - because the systems are integrated.

Moreover the DVA is not programmed to say "Heathrow Terminals 1 2 and 3 via 4" or nout like that so Up In the Sky wasn't fully usefull there, were you up in the sky? ;D

All in all - sorry for sounding harsh cos I'm smiling now! ;D

Will there be a free transfer from T123 to T5 and vice versa on the Underground? I ask because many people who use the HEx to get to T123 for free from T4 and vice versa, there are a fair few who get on the train for Paddington, no matter how many times you tell them or announcements are made, and if this is the case I can see it happening there to!?

It won't surprise me if BAA do make LU do it, but its not really "smart" to... Then again neither is a lot of stuff at T5, like the ticket office for example...

I will be one of the first staff to work in the HEx station when it opens. The ones operating your side of it are SOA's (Station Operating Assistants), employed by HEx but they don't do our job, as we don't do theirs.

In this thread, I see some mention of 3TPH between Northfields and Arnos--and other mention of 6TPH on this section. Which is it?

Basically wikipedia's London Underground section don't really believe in citations and although this is a good thing because most of it such as the technical info can't really be cited, it also means that people like me are lead to believe some of it such as the train frequencys.

Another place to check for this is Clives D Underground lines as he often describes the service patterns.



O basically according to the uncited wikipedia, it says 6tph run between Northfields and mine truely but according to you it is only 3 meaning the total number of the trains on the line per hour is 21 instead of 24. But again wikipedia could be wrong.



okay not a problem (: