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Post by sawb on Sept 28, 2015 16:25:21 GMT
Just had a look at the 6 month lookahead, and it shows the following for October half term week: "Saturday 24th and Sunday 25th October District line: no service between Turnham Green and Ealing Broadway Piccadilly line: no service between Acton Town and Uxbridge Monday 26th to Friday 30th October District line: no service between Turnham Green and Ealing Broadway Saturday 31st October and Sunday 1st November District line: no service between Turnham Green and Ealing Broadway Piccadilly line: no service between Acton Town and Uxbridge" Link here: tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/track-closures.pdfDoes anyone know what work is being done in the week that allows the Piccadilly line to continue operating, but requires the District line to be suspended? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 28, 2015 16:30:25 GMT
Hanger Lane junction is to be moved and relaid during the weekends
Then during the week closure, the pointwork at Ealing Broadway is being relaid, to remove access to the sidings and generally made smoother.
District Line trains will still enter service and stable in Ealing Common depot, some starting and terminating at Ealing Common.
From Saturday 24 October to Monday 2 November Hanger Lane rail junction will be completely renewed and relocated. Work on this junction, which serves the District and Piccadilly lines, is part of the next phase of the Underground’s modernisation programme, resulting in more frequent and reliable journeys.
New points will be installed at the junction’s new location, located just west of the current, during weekend working, avoiding the closure of the Piccadilly line on weekdays.
The Ealing Broadway branch will close during this time which will allow for opportunity works to take place while the station is closed. These include carrying out vital work to the points at Ealing Broadway, replacing 330 metres of track and preparing for the full modernisation of the District line. This work will not affect Hanger Lane Underground station.
Project Manager said: “The Hanger Lane project is a complicated double junction renewal being carried out over two consecutive 52 hour weekend closures. Due to the nature of the site, it is not possible to carry out the work using the more conventional delivery methods.
The junction is being remodelled with longer switches to provide an increase in linespeed which will allow for more trains per hour. We are also installing modern points operating equipment and a new points heating system which will mean a more reliable layout and require less maintenance.”
As part of this scope of work, District line customers will see new trains over the next year, followed by a complete modernisation of the line’s signalling, along with the Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan lines.
During the closure there will be some changes to transport services:
· The District line will not run between Ealing Broadway and Turnham Green. But the Central line will continue to serve Ealing Broadway every day as normal
· The Piccadilly line will run as normal on weekdays, providing alternative Tube routes from Ealing Common and Acton Town
· The Piccadilly line will close between Acton Town and Uxbridge on the weekends of 24/25 October and 31 October/1 November
· Trains will not run from Chiswick Park Underground station throughout, but it will be open to serve customers with tickets and information
· Rail replacement buses will serve Ealing Broadway, Ealing Common, Acton Town and Chiswick Park throughout the work, supplementing existing local bus routes
· LU will run 50 per cent more District line services to Richmond to serve the semi-finals and final of the Rugby World Cup on 24, 25 and 31 October
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 28, 2015 16:47:11 GMT
Does that mean the old junction will be plain-lined in the first weekend and reinstalled on the second one?
And no service whatsoever at Chiswick park? or will Piccadilly trains call?
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Post by Colin on Sept 29, 2015 20:59:49 GMT
There's no platforms for the Piccadilly line at Chiswick Park!
(it'll be shut throughout)
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Post by superteacher on Sept 30, 2015 21:04:59 GMT
During the off peak, where will they send the Ealing trains? Obviously they will want to keep the service on the core section at the same frequency. Extra Richmonds and Wimbledons? Olympia? Parsons Green?
I'm assuming that reversing the service at Ealing Common via the depot was considered to be too much of a hassle.
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Post by rsdworker on Oct 1, 2015 0:10:35 GMT
so after removal sidings so old sidings area could reused in different uses like grass banks or empty space for safety?
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Post by Harsig on Oct 1, 2015 11:28:02 GMT
During the off peak, where will they send the Ealing trains? Obviously they will want to keep the service on the core section at the same frequency. Extra Richmonds and Wimbledons? Olympia? Parsons Green? I'm assuming that reversing the service at Ealing Common via the depot was considered to be too much of a hassle. Hope this helps: |
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Post by jetblast787 on Oct 1, 2015 12:26:48 GMT
so after removal sidings so old sidings area could reused in different uses like grass banks or empty space for safety? It's a shame they are removing the sidings, its perfect for engineering trains, just like when they used it a couple months back to BTR the curve. It was completely full when they were working there! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 14:24:34 GMT
I assume they meant Ealing Common. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 3, 2015 21:02:22 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Oct 4, 2015 8:22:55 GMT
True, although they would need to stay on the slow lines all the way to Hammersmith. With 9 tph coming from Richmond, it wouldn't be feasible this time around. I remember the engineering works a while back when some Picc trains were serving Chiswick Park - at least one forgot to stop! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 0:00:35 GMT
Today, trains scheduled to terminate at Ealing Common were being detained at Acton Town, then running empty to Ealing Common. In the TTN, they are booked to run in passenger service to Ealing Common. Any ideas?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 27, 2015 5:36:36 GMT
Today, trains scheduled to terminate at Ealing Common were being detrained at Acton Town, then running empty to Ealing Common. In the TTN, they are booked to run in passenger service to Ealing Common. Any ideas? Yesterday morning, the first few trains scheduled to stable at Ealing Common were taking so long to do the manoeuvre, (arrive ECom WB, detain - with no other Staff, shunt forward, change ends, drive train into depot) that the PICC was being heavily delayed. Personally, I was on T124 and was called at Gloucester Rd that detrainment at Acton Town was now nessesary. Despite this, the train was delayed approaching Acton Town for 11 minutes, while the previous trains were still going through the previous procedure! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 8:57:08 GMT
Today, trains scheduled to terminate at Ealing Common were being detained at Acton Town, then running empty to Ealing Common. In the TTN, they are booked to run in passenger service to Ealing Common. Any ideas? Yesterday morning, the first few trains scheduled to stable at Ealing Common were taking so long to do the manoeuvre, (arrive ECom WB, detain - with no other Staff, shunt forward, change ends, drive train into depot) that the PICC was being heavily delayed. Personally, I was on T124 and was called at Gloucester Rd that detainment at Acton Town was now nessesary. Despite this, the train was delayed approaching Acton Town for 11 minutes, while the previous trains were still going through the previous procedure! You would like to think that they would have anticipated this, and put some staff on the platform at E Comm to help with detrainment. After all, they must have loads of spare staff after closing loads of ticket offices . . . There were no platform staff at Acton Town either. |
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 27, 2015 13:25:48 GMT
After all, they must have loads of spare staff after closing loads of ticket offices . . . So you would think, but a lot of multifunctional staff have either been displaced to other roles or are currently on release for upgrade training ahead of FftF(S). Although there's probably plenty of SRT who could have been called upon; something like this would be within the group's remit. Not altogether surprising that detrainments are causing delays though. They're a pain when I do them as an SA and meet the T/Op in the middle! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 13:46:28 GMT
So much for "closing ticket office will enable us to put more staff in visible positions" eh!
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 27, 2015 13:47:26 GMT
So much for "closing ticket office will enable us to put more staff in visible positions" eh! ...no comment. ;-) |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 27, 2015 17:14:22 GMT
So much for "closing ticket office will enable us to put more staff in visible positions" eh! The key word is "enable", just because they can do it doesn't mean they will! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 17:31:49 GMT
So much for "closing ticket office will enable us to put more staff in visible positions" eh! The key word is "enable", just because they can do it doesn't mean they will! You old cynic Chris . . .  |
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Post by gantshill on Oct 27, 2015 19:03:45 GMT
I was at Earl's Court today at around 10am and saw a train come into platform 3 with an Ealing Common destination. I've no idea where it actually terminated.
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 19:27:35 GMT
I was at Earl's Court today at around 10am and saw a train come into platform 3 with an Ealing Common destination. I've no idea where it actually terminated. Probably Acton Town then empty to E Comm. See posts from earlier in this thread. |
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Post by arun on Oct 27, 2015 20:02:12 GMT
Yes, Superteacher & Gantshill - I believe I was on that very train this morning en-route to the LTM Depot. We were told to disembark at Acton Town.
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Post by gantshill on Oct 27, 2015 20:25:22 GMT
Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering if the train was really going to take passengers to Ealing Common, or would turf them out at Acton Town despite the destination display.
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 20:30:45 GMT
S stock trains cannot display Acton Town whereas D stock can.
EDIT: S stock CAN show Acton Town, but only from the Ealing Broadway direction.
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Post by wimblephil on Oct 27, 2015 22:02:19 GMT
S stock trains cannot display Acton Town whereas D stock can. EDIT: S stock CAN show Acton Town, but only from the Ealing Broadway direction. That seems... erm... a bit silly!? |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2015 22:07:49 GMT
S stock trains cannot display Acton Town whereas D stock can. EDIT: S stock CAN show Acton Town, but only from the Ealing Broadway direction. That seems... erm... a bit silly!? Especially as it is actually possible to reverse a District at Acton Town, albeit via the sidings. It is not, however, possible to access Ealing Common depot from the westbound platforms. The usual access to the depot is to run in service to Ealing Broadway, then empty back to depot. Maybe the thinking behind having Acton Town as an EB destination is the possibility of needing to run an Ealing to Acton shuttle service if the need arises. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 22:14:07 GMT
It's not, to my knowledge, possible to reverse from the westbound local (District line) platform at Acton Town. District line trains reversing west to east at Acton Town would have to run via the fast (Piccadilly line) from Barons Court, as I understand it.
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Post by hobbayne on Oct 27, 2015 23:17:09 GMT
There was no staff to assist with the Ealing common tippers, or so I believe.
There is only one Supervisor anyway.
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Post by spsmiler on Oct 27, 2015 23:49:18 GMT
sounds like the elastic band is now stretched so thinly that its a wonder that it has not actually snapped.
Simon
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Post by jetblast787 on Nov 3, 2015 21:30:37 GMT
Anyone got any pictures of the works during and now in service? I'm not at home in Ealing till after christmas and am relying on any pictures!
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