Consultation on night bus proposals link to the night tube

Enfield Town would surely have space for stabling if services and platforms are expanded there? It looks like it once had four platforms, and note, at night, it runs 4 car trains. You could therefore stable on platform at least eight four car trains that couple up at night to form the first four eight car trains out in the morning. Indeed, this helps TFL find additional space if and when they provide higher frequency services.

I hold out hope that the last Victoria Line train on a normal night will be met by an Overground train! Personally, I found it interesting that the West Anglia Line was one of the few beyond TFL's network to provide 24hr services this New Year. This could have been a beta test and it certainly shows a willingness on Network Rail's behalf to be creative with this line. Indeed, things could alter radically here if Stansted eventually gets its ambition of a 24hr service, similar to the Luton - Gatwick service on Thameslink.

I understand your point about New Year's Eve, but something tells me, and London shifts so fast, that the night tube will be quite peaky between 11:00 and 02:00 within a few years, if not a decade, as the Capital's habits shift and young people shift to the suburbs where they can get more affordable accommodation and still go out late. I think the shift will be profound and take every body by surprise. Anybody know what happened in other Cities that got 24hr trains?

Quite right, it would be a dreadfully retrograde step to go back to a 1960s style timetable with trains running from LST 24 * 7.

Incredible to think that reduced provision could be considered retrograde. With London now a 24hr city and traders often working till the early hours and across time zones, I do not think the City of London would see that as retrograde.

By extension of logic, would you consider it a positive move to eliminate 24hr services on Thameslink between Gatwick and Luton, shutting down St Pancras and London Bridge at night? I just can't see it. Yes, retrograde for the Unions, but but positive for the greater number of people.

Well, we shall see what happens once all the new skyscrapers are built out infront of Liverpool Street and at Bishopsgate Goodsyard. Something tells me that the intensification there has only just begun, and there is a vast swathe capable of high rise between Liverpool Street to Aldgate and beyond harly yet touched. We are talking the creation of the equivalent of a new CBD equivalent to a decent sized North American city.

I also think that now the Tories are in, we will not see a Heathrow expansion and Gatwick will be insufficient, so that plan requires massive expansion at Stansted, which will probably gain a new runway, along with 24hr trains to it to match Luton. The Tory majority is too small to survive a revolt from West London and Berkshire MPs over Heathrow. Who knows, if Boris gets in as PM in the next Parliament and Heathrow remains unresolved, we may see a revival of Boris Island!

Everything done so far, with the North London Line, etc. points towards a desire to restore services to what they once were. Even Crossrail 2 brings back the Palace Line from Alexandra Palace to Seven Sisters, in a new guise. Some may see these changes as progress, but really they are restorative to London's capacity. Bringing back Liverpool Street to 24hr services will be consistent with that approach and consistent with supporting the ongoing success of the City of London as it expands at a pace not seen in our lifetimes. Goodness knows, I was born in 1980, when Tower 42 was the tallest building in London and one of the tallest in Europe. It is now dwarfed, and I think in 10 years time the skyline will be unrecognisable. Not just in the City, but we will see the Shard being like Canary Wharf, where once one tower stood, now are countless. Reports are that Old Kent Road will see towers rising in height away from Elephant and Castle and the pace of development on the City Fringe has not slowed and did not really slow much even after 2008.

As the consultation document showed, night bus services have seen the greatest rise of any TFL service since 2000. Hence the clamor to meet demand.

Yes, that's probably people heading to/from the night time mecca that is Shoreditch!