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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 11:41:27 GMT
Were there any through trains from Ongar through the City to West Ruislip/Ealing Broadway when the Ongar branch was still in operation?
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Post by superteacher on Aug 20, 2014 12:22:41 GMT
Were there any through trains from Ongar through the City to West Ruislip/Ealing Broadway when the Ongar branch was still in operation? No, although some did run as far as Loughton / Woodford on depot runs (in passenger service). However, I have heard that years ago, during the North Weald Air Show, a train was run from Central London to North Weald. Not sure how true this is though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 10:26:46 GMT
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Aug 22, 2014 11:34:15 GMT
Were there any through trains from Ongar through the City to West Ruislip/Ealing Broadway when the Ongar branch was still in operation? No, although some did run as far as Loughton / Woodford on depot runs (in passenger service). However, I have heard that years ago, during the North Weald Air Show, a train was run from Central London to North Weald. Not sure how true this is though. I seem to recall the air show 8 car 62ts train from the city as well although I haven't any references for you and am unaware of the exact origin point of the train itself. On various occasions I did catch the afternoon 4 car 62ts, and later the red Cravens as it entered service from Woodford northbound on its way to Ongar for the evening shuttle service. If my memory serves correctly it was scheduled for somewhere around 3.25pm at Woodford. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 11:43:46 GMT
Were there any through trains from Ongar through the City to West Ruislip/Ealing Broadway when the Ongar branch was still in operation? No, although some did run as far as Loughton / Woodford on depot runs (in passenger service). However, I have heard that years ago, during the North Weald Air Show, a train was run from Central London to North Weald. Not sure how true this is though. No through trains from central London that I am aware of. (Happy to be corrected through - with a date!). Air show traffic was a 15-min service Loughton - North Weald and 30 min service to Ongar. 4x4-car trains were required. One such was 30/5/66. The normal three-car shuttle of 1935 Experimental Tube Stock (set 90) was scheduled to provide the service from the start of traffic until mid-morning, and then again from just after 19.00 until the end of traffic. In between, four-car units of 1962 Tube Stock provided the service. Between 09.30 and 10.30 and between 19.30 and 22.00, two trains provided a 20-minute service between Epping and Ongar. Between 10.30 and 19.30, four-four-car trains provided the service to and from Loughton, working alternately to North Weald (every 15 minutes) and Ongar (every 30 minutes). In fact the eastbound interval was every 14-16 minutes and westbound 12-18 mins. The four trains (set numbers 91-94) worked in turn Loughton – Ongar – Loughton – North Weald – Loughton. These four trains originated from Loughton sidings and were formed by uncoupling two eight-car trains of 1962 Stock. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Aug 22, 2014 12:22:44 GMT
The normal three-car shuttle of 1935 Experimental Tube Stock (set 90) I thought 1935 stock was all made up of two-car units, but on further investigation I discover that the three nonstreamlined units each had a standard stock trailer added some time in the 1950s. (The eighteen streamlined cars had been rebuilt as trailers for use with the 1938 stock long before then) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 12:31:47 GMT
Correct. From 1958.
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Post by towerman on Aug 22, 2014 14:33:11 GMT
The Ongar branch didn't have any sub stations so couldn't support an 8 car train.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 14:49:12 GMT
Only the test 1992s, and they struggled at one point.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Aug 22, 2014 18:13:20 GMT
The Ongar branch didn't have any sub stations so couldn't support an 8 car train.  It managed two x 4 car trains at the same time up until the early seventies. How does that differ from one 8 car? Not being contrary, just keen to understand the reasoning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 18:45:24 GMT
Because there were instructions that two trains at North Weald must not depart at the same time. They were timetabled to be at least a minute or so different in departure times. And in acceleration, only "Forward 1" was used. A plate on the reverser barrel prevented acceleration in "Forward 2".
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Post by Ben on Aug 22, 2014 20:14:02 GMT
Presumably the 62ts was the most power hungry train on the line, each unit having 6 motors, until the 92ts trials?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 8:25:30 GMT
At a quick glance the photo has some similarities to Sandowm Station on the Isle of Wight albeit with different stock.
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Post by towerman on Aug 29, 2014 12:33:45 GMT
Because there were instructions that two trains at North Weald must not depart at the same time. They were timetabled to be at least a minute or so different in departure times. And in acceleration, only "Forward 1" was used. A plate on the reverser barrel prevented acceleration in "Forward 2". These plates "disappeared" in the early 80's. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 13:00:25 GMT
Interesting .....
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Post by miff on Aug 29, 2014 14:53:51 GMT
Because there were instructions that two trains at North Weald must not depart at the same time. They were timetabled to be at least a minute or so different in departure times. And in acceleration, only "Forward 1" was used. A plate on the reverser barrel prevented acceleration in "Forward 2". These plates "disappeared" in the early 80's. The two train service ceased in 1976 and the passing loop at North Weald was removed soon after. After that only one 4-car train at a time could operate on the branch, would that have anything to do with the removal of these plates? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 16:25:45 GMT
Could well have done. A good thought.
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Post by towerman on Sept 5, 2014 12:26:02 GMT
Just laziness,most of the staff couldn't be a***d to fit them and over the years they got lost.
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