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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 13:11:24 GMT
Hope I'm posting this on the right board, apologies if not.
I'm looking to confirm the name changes of the 20 Metropolitan Electric locomotives. The two changes I'm sure of are No. 2 Oliver Cromwell being renamed Thomas Lord and No. 10 being shortened. But I have seen one reference on this forum to 12 Sarah Siddons originally being named Nuremberg?? and one reference on a Hornby booklet to 15 being shortened to simply Wembley. I can't seem to confirm whether the two latter changes are in fact true and whether there are any others I'm not aware of. Any help, much appreciated!
1 John Lyon
2 Oliver Cromwell renamed Thomas Lord
3 Sir Ralph Verney
4 Lord Byron
5 John Hampden
6 William Penn
7 Edmund Burke
8 Sherlock Holmes
9 John Milton
10 William Ewart Gladstone renamed W E Gladstone
11 George Romney
12 Sarah Siddons
13 Dick Whittington
14 Benjamin Disraeli
15 Wembley 1924
16 Oliver Goldsmith
17 Florence Nightingale
18 Michael Faraday
19 John Wycliffe
20 Sir Christopher Wren
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Post by programmes1 on Mar 26, 2014 14:29:02 GMT
Hope I'm posting this on the right board, apologies if not. I'm looking to confirm the name changes of the 20 Metropolitan Electric locomotives. The two changes I'm sure of are No. 2 Oliver Cromwell being renamed Thomas Lord and No. 10 being shortened. But I have seen one reference on this forum to 12 Sarah Siddons originally being named Nuremberg?? and one reference on a Hornby booklet to 15 being shortened to simply Wembley. I can't seem to confirm whether the two latter changes are in fact true and whether there are any others I'm not aware of. Any help, much appreciated! 1 John Lyon 2 Oliver Cromwell renamed Thomas Lord 3 Sir Ralph Verney 4 Lord Byron 5 John Hampden 6 William Penn 7 Edmund Burke 8 Sherlock Holmes 9 John Milton 10 William Ewart Gladstone renamed W E Gladstone 11 George Romney 12 Sarah Siddons 13 Dick Whittington 14 Benjamin Disraeli 15 Wembley 1924 16 Oliver Goldsmith 17 Florence Nightingale 18 Michael Faraday 19 John Wycliffe 20 Sir Christopher Wren There was a book some years ago which covered the Met Locos by Ken Benest first edition 1963 then totally redone 1984 I think by LURS. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Mar 26, 2014 14:42:07 GMT
There was a book some years ago which covered the Met Locos by Ken Benest first edition 1963 then totally redone 1984 I think by LURS. Indeed, I'm looking at my copy now. (ISBN 0 9508793 1 2. Metropolitan Electric Locomotives, by KR Benest LURS 1984)I can't see any mention of No.15 being shortened to plain "Wembley". It was proposed to be: "B.E.E. 1924" |
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Post by DWS on Mar 26, 2014 14:52:36 GMT
I have a book "Metropolitan Electric Locomotives" by K.R.Benest published by Lens of Sutton in 1963.
The only loco to change names was No.2 from when the name Oliver Cromwell was removed in May 1947 and the Loco was painted grey.
In March 1955 it was renamed Thomas Lord with the plain maroon livery and simplified lining out.
The only other change was No. 10 William Ewart Gladstone which had its name plate removed in November 1943, in August 1954 the new name plate was W.E.Gladstone,
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Post by castlebar on Mar 26, 2014 18:18:56 GMT
B.E.E. Was the British Empire Exhibition
It was held at Wembley in 1924, and for the first months of 1925 and would have been visible from the Met
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Post by grahamhewett on Mar 26, 2014 18:36:08 GMT
A friend recalls seeing Gladstone have to rescue a failed Disraeli once.
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Post by DWS on Mar 26, 2014 22:44:38 GMT
A friend recalls seeing Gladstone have to rescue a failed Disraeli once. How old is your friend ? |
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Post by metman on Mar 26, 2014 23:24:12 GMT
I believe that several locus did not receive the new aluminium name boards post war as they were scrapped whilst still in grey. No9 John Milton I understand was used as a shunter on the district and hence did not receive it's name.
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Post by grahamhewett on Mar 27, 2014 8:20:43 GMT
metman - that is my recollection, too - 9 was always difficult to see, usually lurking behind rakes of parked stock at Ealing Common. DWS - born before 1960, so - very old indeed.
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Post by phillw48 on Mar 27, 2014 8:56:04 GMT
metman - that is my recollection, too - 9 was always difficult to see, usually lurking behind rakes of parked stock at Ealing Common. DWS - born before 1960, so - very old indeed. Cheeky young whippersnapper! My website name tells you my vintage. |
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Post by grahamhewett on Mar 27, 2014 9:04:33 GMT
phillw48 - yes, I joined the 48 club 66 years ago, too... Still incredibly young, of course, except on days when my gout is troublesome (waves stick at young passerby).
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Post by John Tuthill on Mar 27, 2014 9:47:23 GMT
phillw48 - yes, I joined the 48 club 66 years ago, too... Still incredibly young, of course, except on days when my gout is troublesome (waves stick at young passerby). Like Graham, I'm pre 60's, 1947. My mother said that was the worst winter in history, forget '63. Still at least Graham and my birth certificates are on paper and not parchment like Mr. B. Forsyth  |
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