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Post by ruislip on Jan 1, 2014 19:10:02 GMT
Just wondering
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2014 19:24:12 GMT
Additional carriages on the Goblin Line is my number one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2014 23:12:01 GMT
Depends if you count string some knitting on the GOBlin as an 'extension' (though maybe just more planning)
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Post by snoggle on Jan 2, 2014 17:13:59 GMT
Nothing substantial. I imagine you will start to see extended platforms on the ELL as the work is done. The new sidings at Silwood will become available for use.
I doubt we will see any visible progress on GOBLIN electrification. I haven't even seen any news about how the GRIP process is going with Network Rail and if there is a preferred scope for the electrification / capacity expansion works. The actual work on site is not due to be completed until 2017 anyway so we won't see any physical work for a while yet. I guess we might see some of the "fifth" cars turn up but they won't be into trains until such time as the infrastructure work is done to allow them to run. That's not due for completion on the ELL until 2015.
You might see some "Access for All" works at some Overground stations and a small number are due to get capacity works too. West Hampstead seems to be in line for the biggest changes. I am not sure if those works are due for completion this year. Dalston Kingsland, Hackney Central and Finchley Road and Frognal are the others on the list for urgent attention.
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Post by melikepie on Jan 2, 2014 22:26:07 GMT
Will the Silwood sidings result in an increased frequency?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 16:06:32 GMT
Will the Silwood sidings result in an increased frequency? I think the current 16 trains per hour through the core (Surrey Quays to Dalston Junction) is about as much as you're going to get. There has been talk of up to 18 trains per hour but the major problem is dwell times at stations during the peaks as well as the fact that if any services is late onto the core by a more than a couple of minutes it can have quite a significant impact on congestion. With trains stacking up, the more trains that are pushed through the less chance of recovering the service in a timely manner. What we are really lacking since both bay platforms are in constant use at Dalston Junction following the Clapham Junction extension is a turnback siding where we can turn a train around early in the event of significant delay.
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Post by bicbasher on Jan 3, 2014 19:43:42 GMT
What we are really lacking since both bay platforms are in constant use at Dalston Junction following the Clapham Junction extension is a turnback siding where we can turn a train around early in the event of significant delay. You still have Canada Water, Shadwell and New Cross Gate (if coming from the core) where it's possible to turn a service around, although I haven't seen Canada Water been used to start a service during delays for at least two years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2014 0:23:06 GMT
What we are really lacking since both bay platforms are in constant use at Dalston Junction following the Clapham Junction extension is a turnback siding where we can turn a train around early in the event of significant delay. You still have Canada Water, Shadwell and New Cross Gate (if coming from the core) where it's possible to turn a service around, although I haven't seen Canada Water been used to start a service during delays for at least two years. Yes we do, they are fine if there are signalling issues and ALL services need to turn around, but at all of those locations it means turning a train on a running line, which in normal running can hold up trains in both directions, certainly on the line at which the driver changes ends. It works OK when we're running short services when there's engineering works at weekends etc, but it's not suited to turning services short of destination in peak rush. Even if a train develops a fault on the up and has to run empty to come out of service it will on most occasions run up to Dalston to turn rather than do so at Canada Water or Shadwell. That's why I specifically mentioned a turnback siding. I believe it would be possible to create one just north of Shoreditch High St and I'm surprised this hasn't been done (perhaps it has been considered but there are valid reasons why not).
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Post by Ben on Jan 6, 2014 12:13:48 GMT
Well of course the section Dalston Junction - just north of Shoreditch was four tracked, but the bridges now accomodate only double track. Pity as that surely would have been useful at some point in the future.
Could Surrey Quays still accept a third platform? It was rebuilt to allow for this as part of the Fleet line, was it not? Perhaps this might prove useful in the future.
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