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Post by bicbasher on Oct 24, 2013 20:41:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2013 12:26:52 GMT
43 weeks? Blimey. Someone needs to point out that Charing Cross is only up the hill...
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Post by tjw on Oct 25, 2013 16:07:44 GMT
For many years Embankment was known as Charing Cross, presumable this is because the platforms of the mainline station are above it. I can't see how this is going to delay too many people.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 25, 2013 16:48:28 GMT
It was known as Charing Cross because when it opened it was indeed the nearest station to the SER terminus. (Compare Mansion House, which again was the nearest station to the Lord Mayor's official residence when the station opened) Although the CCEHR station was even closer to the main line station (being built under the forecourt, the name was already taken so it was called "Strand" until the tidying up in the '70s.
It will surely cause considerable delay to those who change there between Circle/District and Bakerloo/Northern - even if an OSI were to be available. Given the shortage of alternative interchanges to the southern side of the Circle, I can predict see considerable overcrowding at Victoria and Bank/Monument - both already quite busy enough thankyou - and a lot of Long Marches between the Northern/bakerloo platforms at Waterloo and the Jubilee or Drain platforms (for Westmister and Bank respectively).
Maybe the availability of interchange at Blackfriars will be the spur for TfL to reinstate Thameslink to the Tube map?
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Post by bicbasher on Oct 25, 2013 20:08:55 GMT
The Northern line platforms and ticket hall are closest to Embankment station with a 2 minute walk along Villiers Street. The Bakerloo platforms at CX are of course slightly further away but are connected via a walkway to the ticket hall.
From what I recall, Embankment was known as Charing Cross, then Embankment Charing Cross, the Northern line station as Strand and the Bakerloo ticket hall as Trafalgar Square. It all changed in 1979 when a rebuilt Northern line ticket hall and connecting walkway from the old Trafalgar Square station to Strand was built when the Jubilee opened.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 15:19:53 GMT
The early naming of the tube stations at Charing Cross was as follows:
1906: Bakerloo opened with stations Trafalgar Square and Embankment.
1907: CCEH opens to Charing Cross (i.e. the station in Strand).
1914: CCEH extended to Embankment, which is renamed Charing Cross (Embankment); CCEH Charing Cross station becomes Charing Cross (Strand).
1915: Charing Cross (Strand) becomes Strand; Charing Cross (Embankment) becomes Charing Cross.
Throughout this, the District station was called Charing Cross.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 15:42:59 GMT
How does Aldwych/Strand fit into the above?  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 26, 2013 16:07:21 GMT
How does Aldwych/Strand fit into the above? Renamed on 9 May 1915, the same day that Charing Cross (Strand) became "Strand" and Charing Cross (Embankment) became "Charing Cross" More - much more - about the CCEHR station here. diamondgeezer.blogspot.co.uk/ |
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Post by Tomcakes on Oct 27, 2013 21:55:37 GMT
I often change at Embankment between the EB District and NB Northern - it's much easier than taking the Picc and changing at Leicester Square, and you're far more likely to get a seat.
43 weeks is a very protracted period of time, though. Surely if the station is to be closed, they could replace the escalators in parallel in a shorter time? Experience elsewhere suggests it takes perhaps a month-6 weeks to do one escalator.
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 28, 2013 3:49:52 GMT
I often change at Embankment between the EB District and NB Northern - it's much easier than taking the Picc and changing at Leicester Square, and you're far more likely to get a seat. 43 weeks is a very protracted period of time, though. Surely if the station is to be closed, they could replace the escalators in parallel in a shorter time? Experience elsewhere suggests it takes perhaps a month-6 weeks to do one escalator. But the station is not closing. The District and Circle lines will continue to stop there. Getting large bits of steel out and new in will be difficult in the location with lots of people around almost 24 hours a day. |
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Post by abe on Nov 20, 2013 14:05:16 GMT
I believe that a lot of the work will be done in parallel. The problem is that all of the escalators are single machines in single shafts, making the process rather more cramped and time-consuming.
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Post by Alight on Jan 16, 2014 23:18:16 GMT
I've been through Embankment on the Northern line a couple of times since the closure and what's really amusing (and equally fairly uncanny!) is the fact the original 'mind the gap' announcements still play as the train travels through!
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Post by Chris M on Jan 17, 2014 18:44:00 GMT
Weren't the original recordings recently reinstated as a present to the announcer's wife?
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jan 17, 2014 20:20:39 GMT
The Dot Matrix Indicators are still working on the Northern line platforms too! They're also redoing the northbound platform surface of the Northern line.
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Post by bicbasher on Jan 17, 2014 22:03:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 22:36:50 GMT
It's interesting that as of this week they have removed some of the vitreous enamel cladding from the walls of the southbound Bakerloo platform walls at regular intervals along its length, uncovering the original tiling beneath and you can just make out an example of the EMBANKMENT continuous frieze in what looks like brown lettering.
I'm not sure what the condition of the tiling is but it's a tantalising glint at the past.
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