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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 18:13:35 GMT
Hi all
I joined this forum specifically to ask about something that's been perplexing me for ages!
Why is it that some tube carriages on the circle line (the ones that say Metro Cammell on the door kick plates) have a windscreen wiper on the end window between carriages?
I have been racking my brains for ages and my theories so far are:
1. There's some way of controlling the brakes from that carriage in case it's the last carriage on a train without cabs at each end and it has to go backwards with a guard at the emergency brake?
2. They used to be driving cabs and were converted to normal carriages (seems unlikely)
3. It's a standard design and they put a windscreen wiper on the end whether or not it's a driving cab
4. Something completely different?!
I asked a member of LU staff at Tower Hill the other day and her theory was that it's because they used to be at the end of the train and they got mixed up over the years. But she didn't really know.
Anyway I hope someone can shed some light on this because it's been bugging me for ages and I've made it my mission to find solve the mystery!
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Post by br7mt on Sept 11, 2013 18:26:56 GMT
A 6-car C Stock train is formed of three 2-car units, each one consisting of a Driving Motor and a Trailer car. The outer ends of each unit are fitted with an autocoupler so they can couple to another unit. The windscreen wiper is there because a shunter can control movement of a 2-car unit from that position when shunting inside a depot.
Regards,
Dan
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 18:35:03 GMT
Thanks so much Dan! It sounds silly but it was driving me mad wondering what they were for!
So I was near the mark with my first theory.
Can the shunter control the power from the trailer car as well as the brake? There must be some controls hidden somewhere under the end panel under the window I guess,
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 11, 2013 18:40:57 GMT
1. Is probably your closest guess.
As has been said each train (6 cars) is made up of three units, each unit is made up of two cars. One car is a Driving Motor (DM) and had a full driving cab at the outer end, it is permanently fixed to a Trailer (T) which does not have a full driving cab, but has sufficient controls in a cabinet at the outer end such that the unit can be driven from that position. Such positions are not fitted with the controls (or indeed Train Operator comforts) needed for operation in passenger service.
This allows trains to be reformed as needed in the depots; the windscreen wipers are provided because this is the UK and trains are often shunted in the rain and/or snow!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 18:50:15 GMT
Thanks for all the info, I can now sleep easy with one fewer of life's mysteries whirling round my mind!
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Post by domh245 on Sept 11, 2013 19:21:28 GMT
Yes, there are also motor controls at the shunting position. If you look at the shunting end of the carriage (with the windscreen wiper) you will probably notice a large end panel (so that the end bay is 2, not the usual 2 and a bit!) with a square keyhole in it. Under there is the shunting panel. This link covers the whole process in detail, and with some pictures as well!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 20:16:34 GMT
Wow! That's answered more questions than I ever knew I had. Thanks
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