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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 12:25:13 GMT
Can anyone point me in the direction of a source of info re the electrification to Barking?
I have a particular interest in how many platforms had electrified tracks (assuming two). After the 1932 Upminster Extension did the Ealing Broadway - Southend trains still exchange locos at Barking or had the change point moved east?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 15:32:12 GMT
To answer your question, locos continued to be changed at Barking from 1932 right up to when the through trains were withdrawn.
However, when the service was first introduced (01.06.1910) locos were changed at Little Ilford.
From 01.10.1910 locos could be changed at either Little Ilford or East Ham.
From 02.10.1911 all loco changes were scheduled to be done at Barking.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 16:51:15 GMT
Thanks for response.
Assuming the following:
1. TWO tracks electrified and WB trains from Barking would use UP LOCAL line
2. LTS (LMS) WB trains could approach Barking on either LOCAL or THROUGH lines but could gain access to UP LOCAL to access Electrified line -
1930s signalling suggests that one electrified platform was used for through trains in either direction and the other platform for EB terminating trains (WB on the way out).
Loco changeover could not have taken place on BOTH electrified lines.
Is there any actual evidence for this?
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Post by revupminster on Aug 21, 2013 21:49:16 GMT
The definitive reading is Peter Kay's London Tilbury and Southend Railway volume 3 pages 166-169. He says when the district was electrified to Barking the electrified tracks ended at dead end platforms 4 and 5 so the changeover to steam locos took place at Little Ilford. Sometime in 1911 through platforms 2 and 3 were electrified and locos exchanged there. The first ever through train was on 22 July 1909 to see the naval fleet at Southend that was visiting between the 17 and 24 July.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2013 9:34:58 GMT
I wonder if Harsig could be prevailed upon to comment.
I am thinking of Rickmansworth and the pointwork and sidings needed for that loco changeover.
I have seen Harsig's plan of 1936 Barking and I am at a loss to see which were the loco sidings. I can see how it could have worked at the east end of Barking but not at the west end.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2014 17:41:01 GMT
I have been offered some kit parts for a District Bo-Bo loco inc. a body shell in grey resin. It has occurred to me that I have no idea what livery these locos were actually painted in.
Any known references?
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Post by metman on Apr 6, 2014 11:40:45 GMT
Ian Huntley's book surface stock plan book suggests that the district locos originally were painted in crimson lake with stained wood doors and window frames.
They were later I imagine painted in train red before they were withdrawn in 1939.
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