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Post by Alight on Aug 3, 2013 17:07:12 GMT
Yesterday, while travelling westbound on the Piccadilly line, as we pulled into Wood Green the driver announced "this is Wood Green, we will now wait here for a couple of minutes." When stationary, the driver opened her cab door, got out and then opened a gate and disappeared for a good few minutes in what looked to be a corridor.
Does anyone know what this area is used for and why the driver may have needed to go in there while leaving the train unattended?
EDITED: westbound, not eastbound
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Post by mrfs42 on Aug 3, 2013 17:25:56 GMT
I suspect a PNB.
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Post by programmes1 on Aug 3, 2013 17:40:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 18:11:02 GMT
Would have been a PNR, but I'm thinking you have your direction of travel wrong as the toilet and tea point are at the headwall of the westbound platform.
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Post by melikepie on Aug 3, 2013 18:19:48 GMT
What does the B stand for?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 19:13:23 GMT
Break.
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Post by Alight on Aug 3, 2013 19:30:48 GMT
Thanks for your responses. It wasn't long before she needed a break then - she'd only just started her shift at Arnos Grove! I'm thinking you have your direction of travel wrong as the toilet and tea point are at the headwall of the westbound platform. Sorry, you're absolutely right - I meant westbound! I'll edit accordingly. |
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Post by causton on Aug 3, 2013 21:13:36 GMT
Did you know for certain that Arnos Grove was where she started her shift? She could have been running late on a previous trip and had to switch to another train, and seeing it already there thought 'it's fine, I don't need to go for my PNB now' but after a couple of stops changing her mind!
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Post by Alight on Aug 4, 2013 16:10:44 GMT
All I know is there was definitely a driver swap at Arnos Grove.
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Post by hobbayne on Aug 5, 2013 9:48:11 GMT
Have you a problem with this? Everyone is entitled to use the lavatory!!
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Post by castlebar on Aug 5, 2013 12:11:42 GMT
Strewth!
agree with Hobbayne. Everyone needs a pi55 occasionally
Are there no worthier subjects for discussion at the moment?
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Post by Alight on Aug 5, 2013 13:29:35 GMT
Hobbayne and castlebar:If you look at the first post of this thread, you'll notice that my confusion was what this gated area is used for and whether this had any relevance to the 3-4 min delay, which I did have a problem with at the time. After reading the speculative reason behind this break, I was then merely curious as to why breaks are factored in minutes after the start of shifts - that's all.  This thread has enlightened many of us who aren't drivers or T/Ops to what PNR is so I think it has been somewhat a useful discussion. What isn't useful - or worthy - is the false belief that I 'have a problem' with people needing the loo...
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Post by castlebar on Aug 5, 2013 14:01:55 GMT
@ Alight
Sometimes, there are reasons why you and I do not know what goes on in or behind a "gated area"
Some "unlabelled doors" will have staff WCs behind them, others will not. Those that do not, are sometimes unlabelled for a security reason, so overall, some doors/gated areas will not be labelled in order to prevent the public using staff facilities, and sometimes they are unlabelled for reasons of security. I really do think that's all I need to say on this.
Sorry, but in this day and age, information should not be handed out to anyone who asks what goes on behind the public interface. Please do not take this personally, but some information, even labels on doors, is not to be made public and it is not right that it should be. (Perhaps) in the case you mention, it is a staff WC, but it might be something different that cannot be divulged the next time such a question is asked.
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Post by version3point1 on Aug 30, 2013 19:17:29 GMT
Anyway – there are "facilities" of sorts behind the gates, yes. It secures what essentially is a cross-passageway, with a few doors leading off to other places and other corridors and other gates.
There used to be posters up on the wall by the gate to tell us to make a PA to inform the pax about going to the loo, but I'd rather not divulge that information, thanks!
Yes - we all go to the toilet before we pick up our trains, but sometimes when you've downed that cup of tea in the messroom and then get on the train, nature of course might have its way. Being a female driver, could also be lady-related things... but anyway. I used to make a PA saying we would be held for a short while - the timetable used to give enough room for getting back to the normal headway and on time by the time you got to King's Cross - really not a big deal.
Wood Green westbound was usually a good place to go for a PNR if you're desperate. Same with South Harrow eastbound. Nine times out of ten, when you'd call up the LC to ask he wouldn't really have a problem because you're not going to be there forever and you're away enough from Zone 1 that you're not going to cause a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 19:34:28 GMT
While we're on lady-related stuff, what are the guidelines for pregnant train drivers? I know that I would have to be taken off night shifts in my job if I fell pregnant, but can a driver work normal hours up to a certain point?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 0:36:59 GMT
@ Alight Sometimes, there are reasons why you and I do not know what goes on in or behind a "gated area" Some "unlabelled doors" will have staff WCs behind them, others will not. Those that do not, are sometimes unlabelled for a security reason, so overall, some doors/gated areas will not be labelled in order to prevent the public using staff facilities, and sometimes they are unlabelled for reasons of security. I really do think that's all I need to say on this. Sorry, but in this day and age, information should not be handed out to anyone who asks what goes on behind the public interface. Please do not take this personally, but some information, even labels on doors, is not to be made public and it is not right that it should be. (Perhaps) in the case you mention, it is a staff WC, but it might be something different that cannot be divulged the next time such a question is asked. Completely agree. I can imagine passengers would become quite angry if they knew about staff WCs on platforms/concourses/cross passageways and not being able to access to them! |
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