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Post by towerman on May 10, 2013 15:17:50 GMT
What do you think has been the most jinxed underground stock?My vote goes to 59/62TS,there was the fatal derailment at Uxbridge,the bomb at Wood Green,2 collisions at Leyton(1 fatal),collisions at Marble Arch & Holborn,hitting the tunnel roof leaving White City Depot,colliding with the stops at Leytonstone & damaged wiring caused by entering the flooded flyunder at North Acton.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 15:51:01 GMT
C stock had West Ham, 7/7 and the scrape at Hammersmith.
Also looks battered now due to Vandals and people from "da hood innit" who "customise" the train.
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Post by Chris M on May 10, 2013 18:23:13 GMT
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Post by domh245 on May 10, 2013 18:50:58 GMT
Well the C has had it's fair share of incidents. The A stock had a number of incidents (Kilburn, Neasden). The 38TS had Moorgate, D stock has the Richmond buffer collision. Indeed the 1983 stock was so badly jinxed (admittedly because of the design) that it was scrapped after 14 years in service
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Post by Chris M on May 10, 2013 19:08:45 GMT
Yes service life is something to take into consideration - A stock had 50 years to accumulate incidents whereas the 1983 stock had just over a fifth of that.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 21:14:27 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 10, 2013 21:41:46 GMT
ah yes, Aldgate East. Possible why 5701 has recently been nominated for withdrawal. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 10, 2013 22:01:10 GMT
Wasn't it a '62 which hit a drill bit near Gants Hill?
There were quite a lot of o/p/Q stock got bombed in the blitz
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 7:23:00 GMT
1972 stock, the poor things have never had a proper home!
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Post by metman on May 13, 2013 17:42:51 GMT
The A stock has had a few knocks but there has been many efforts to keep them going, even bringing some back from the dead!
The 1938 stock has had a few knocks. Tooting, Morden sheds, Watford, Moorgate, London Road, High Barnet Siding overrun, Morden shut neck overrun,Neasden Depot to name a few...
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Post by superteacher on May 13, 2013 19:10:31 GMT
What do you think has been the most jinxed underground stock?My vote goes to 59/62TS,there was the fatal derailment at Uxbridge,the bomb at Wood Green,2 collisions at Leyton(1 fatal),collisions at Marble Arch & Holborn,hitting the tunnel roof leaving White City Depot,colliding with the stops at Leytonstone & damaged wiring caused by entering the flooded flyunder at North Acton. Didn't one have an overrun into the buffers at Epping? |
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Post by crusty54 on May 13, 2013 20:09:34 GMT
Wasn't it a '62 which hit a drill bit near Gants Hill? There were quite a lot of o/p/Q stock got bombed in the blitz Two 62s hit two different drill bits at Redbridge. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2013 20:21:03 GMT
It sounds like the 62s really had a tough time. Shame I didn't live long enough to see 'em
(was born 5/6 years after '92s were introduced)
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Post by neilw on May 14, 2013 7:39:46 GMT
superteacher-I heard tale of this incident, where a (presumably) four-car train from Ongar slid through the platform at Epping on greasy/wet rails, and took a left at the trap points and down the embankment. I have never found it "officially" anywhere, though?
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Post by motorman on May 14, 2013 19:42:41 GMT
There was also an overrun through the buffer stops in Rayners Lane siding in the early 1970's again 59 stock. I believe 1012 was the unit involved.
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Post by metman on May 14, 2013 21:08:08 GMT
and sadly the driver lost his life...
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Post by 1018509 on May 24, 2013 17:51:11 GMT
What do you think has been the most jinxed underground stock?My vote goes to 59/62TS,there was the fatal derailment at Uxbridge,the bomb at Wood Green,2 collisions at Leyton(1 fatal),collisions at Marble Arch & Holborn,hitting the tunnel roof leaving White City Depot,colliding with the stops at Leytonstone & damaged wiring caused by entering the flooded flyunder at North Acton. Not forgetting South Ruislip IIRC. Don't remember when but train was in Ruislip Depot for a while minus a cab. Sometime in the early 70's I think, not long after my (then) London Transport career began. Can anyone confirm this? |
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Post by 1018509 on May 24, 2013 18:00:49 GMT
73 stock must be a good contender.
7/7/05.
Fire at Wood Green, was it.
The errr.... runaway of 170 into Boston Manor sidings which we don't talk about.
Tree at Osterley.
Hitting the stops in the Pictures siding Northfields.
Have I missed any?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 18:56:52 GMT
You have!
2/12/93 - Runaway train at King's Cross after a driver left his bag on the TBC
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Post by 1018509 on May 24, 2013 19:04:57 GMT
You have! 2/12/93 - Runaway train at King's Cross after a driver left his bag on the TBC B*gger!  |
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Post by motorman on May 24, 2013 19:20:45 GMT
Don't forget 7/7 Kings X
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 14:09:25 GMT
Didnt a D stock get split around Gunnersbury sometime in the 80's
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 28, 2013 14:27:34 GMT
Didnt a D stock get split around Gunnersbury sometime in the 80's 24 April 1999.  Then of course Richmond, 18 September 1987:  All repaired afterwards; D Stock - still 100% intact Fleet, 33 Years on ! |
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Post by londonstuff on May 28, 2013 14:51:26 GMT
That's a good effort saving the one at Richmond. Was it attributed to driver error or was it some sort of braking/stopping fault?
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Post by domh245 on May 28, 2013 14:53:45 GMT
What happened to that first one, did the points change before the last bogie went over it?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 28, 2013 15:19:24 GMT
What happened to that first one, did the points change before the last bogie went over it? Broken fishplate as rear bogie passed over. That's a good effort saving the one at Richmond. Was it attributed to driver error or was it some sort of braking/stopping fault? Top of rails greased outside station, before 'Moorgate protection' installed at Richmond. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 15:54:18 GMT
Hate to be technical but I think he mentioned it: |
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Post by rincew1nd on May 29, 2013 7:15:21 GMT
The Richmond branch doesn't seem to be so lucky for D Stock!
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 29, 2013 12:07:18 GMT
The Richmond branch doesn't seem to be so lucky for D Stock! Other incidents at Whitechapel, Turnham Green and in Ealing Common depot have damaged trains in the past. |
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Post by d7666 on Jun 2, 2013 20:40:41 GMT
What happened to that first one, did the points change before the last bogie went over it? Broken fishplate as rear bogie passed over. [/quote] Are you sure about that, the Gunnersbury incident ? The reason I say that is there is an internal LU course that I did last year where that incident is one where we (the course candidates) are given the evidence and then the reports to see how underlying causes are determined. I do not remember anything about fishplates, I can't remember now what it was, did not need to remember it for the purpose of the course , but off the top of my head thought it was something else loose on or loosened by a preceding train. -- Nick |
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