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Post by ruislip on Oct 22, 2013 4:45:40 GMT
Has anyone tried pronouncing Loughton as Luton?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 17:42:12 GMT
No, but have as "Luffton"
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Post by pitdiver on Oct 23, 2013 9:04:20 GMT
I know this is slightly off topic but earlier there was a discussion regarding "ham" at the end of a place name. I have recently been up to The Norfolk Broads and some of you might know there is a place called Potter Heigham. This I heard pronounced as "Potteram".
When I worked at Westbourne Park back in the late 80's there was a plan to call the area "North Kensington" a bit more up market.
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Post by class411 on Oct 23, 2013 9:11:35 GMT
When I worked at Westbourne Park back in the late 80's there was a plan to call the area "North Kensington" a bit more up market. People who try and do that just make themselves look like pratts. Others will say: "They live in Westbourne Park but they tell everyone it's North Kensington", with a roll of the eyes. Come to think of it, I think "Westbourne Park" actually sounds more upmarket than "North Kensington" ( and certainly more than "North Ken" which is what it would end up getting called).
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Post by John Tuthill on Oct 23, 2013 9:22:56 GMT
When I worked at Westbourne Park back in the late 80's there was a plan to call the area "North Kensington" a bit more up market. People who try and do that just make themselves look like pratts. Others will say: "They live in Westbourne Park but they tell everyone it's North Kensington", with a roll of the eyes. Come to think of it, I think "Westbourne Park" actually sounds more upmarket than "North Kensington" ( and certainly more than "North Ken" which is what it would end up getting called). A friend of mine a retired black cabbie told me years ago that when the "red braces & hair gel lot" decided to move south of the river, he had fares on occasion asking for "South Chelsea" Turned out they meant Battersea! On another someone wanted St. Reatham. He was actually shown the address, it was off of Leigham Court Road, but it was actually written down as 'St. Reatham' Want to be a budding estate agent? See who can come up with the most preposterous name for a well known area of London
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Post by londonstuff on Oct 23, 2013 10:03:35 GMT
People who try and do that just make themselves look like pratts. Others will say: "They live in Westbourne Park but they tell everyone it's North Kensington", with a roll of the eyes. Come to think of it, I think "Westbourne Park" actually sounds more upmarket than "North Kensington" ( and certainly more than "North Ken" which is what it would end up getting called). A friend of mine a retired black cabbie told me years ago that when the "red braces & hair gel lot" decided to move south of the river, he had fares on occasion asking for "South Chelsea" Turned out they meant Battersea! On another someone wanted St. Reatham. He was actually shown the address, it was off of Leigham Court Road, but it was actually written down as 'St. Reatham' Want to be a budding estate agent? See who can come up with the most preposterous name for a well known area of London O/T but Pimlico has certainly been known as Lower Belgravia before now. And then for the Chelsea families who move across the river so they can afford a house they move to Cla'am rather than Clapham. Otherwise known as the Nappy Valley. I've always thought the way the Northern line trains announce the station towards the north as H ighgit doesn't sound right.
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Post by class411 on Oct 23, 2013 11:17:55 GMT
People who try and do that just make themselves look like pratts. Others will say: "They live in Westbourne Park but they tell everyone it's North Kensington", with a roll of the eyes. Come to think of it, I think "Westbourne Park" actually sounds more upmarket than "North Kensington" ( and certainly more than "North Ken" which is what it would end up getting called). A friend of mine a retired black cabbie told me years ago that when the "red braces & hair gel lot" decided to move south of the river, he had fares on occasion asking for "South Chelsea" Turned out they meant Battersea! On another someone wanted St. Reatham. He was actually shown the address, it was off of Leigham Court Road, but it was actually written down as 'St. Reatham' Want to be a budding estate agent? See who can come up with the most preposterous name for a well known area of London Well, most estate agents seem to call areas around Hammersmith by old village names although I don't think anyone else does. Many years ago, long before Hyacinth Bucket, I worked with a couple who had friends called 'Ramsbottom', who insisted it was pronounced 'Ramis-both arm'. Then there was the penchant amongst some of calling 'Clapham', 'Clarm'. I tried to get people interested in calling 'Chatham', 'Charm', but it never caught on.
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Post by grahamhewett on Oct 23, 2013 12:56:20 GMT
I may have mentioned before the book "Fraffly well spoken" which introduces we proles to Sloane/Hooray Henry speak: "Sinjuns Wood" Sin Chemz Pok" etc. My unfavourite is a guard on SWT who refers to a certain station next but one on my line as "Izalmeer" - home of the loo rolls, presumably?
BTW, there's a whole raft of odd real place names out there: Great Snoring (whose parish Council Chairman until recently was a Mr Gotobed - really), Ugly (alleged home of a Women's Institute), Idle (which really does have a Working men's Club), etc etc
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Post by castlebar on Oct 23, 2013 15:03:33 GMT
Estate agents now use "St Ockwell", and since I left the area, parts of Ealing have been re-named 'Pitshanger Village"
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Post by class411 on Oct 23, 2013 15:15:14 GMT
Estate agents now use "St Ockwell", and since I left the area, parts of Ealing have been re-named 'Pitshanger Village" When I was a child there would have been some (slight) justification for that because Pitshanger Lane was a completely self contained shopping street where you could get virtually everything you wanted without a trip to Ealing Broadway. Of course, that doesn't alter the fact that the whole area was contiguous with the rest of Ealing. On the "St. Ockwell" front; don't people ridicule these cretins mercilessly when they do this?
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Post by castlebar on Oct 23, 2013 15:21:37 GMT
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Agreed, but apparently, that's not where "Pitshanger Village" is.
It seems it's half a mile to the east towards Hanger Lane around the old Brentham estate
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Post by slugabed on Oct 23, 2013 20:58:05 GMT
BTW, there's a whole raft of odd real place names out there: Great Snoring (whose parish Council Chairman until recently was a Mr Gotobed - really), Ugly (alleged home of a Women's Institute), Idle (which really does have a Working men's Club), etc etc Favourite headline in a local paper...."Nasty man marries Ugley woman"....two nearby villages on the Herts/Essex borders.... Stop Press:The very best local news headline must surely be "Lost Baby Found in Sandwich"
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Post by gantshill on Oct 23, 2013 21:10:35 GMT
I had a great aunt from Ireland who was expecting a loch or lough at Lough Ton.
There is always the Play-stow Plars-stow debate.
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Post by phillw48 on Oct 24, 2013 8:00:05 GMT
I may have mentioned before the book "Fraffly well spoken" which introduces we proles to Sloane/Hooray Henry speak: "Sinjuns Wood" Sin Chemz Pok" etc. My unfavourite is a guard on SWT who refers to a certain station next but one on my line as "Izalmeer" - home of the loo rolls, presumably? BTW, there's a whole raft of odd real place names out there: Great Snoring (whose parish Council Chairman until recently was a Mr Gotobed - really), Ugly (alleged home of a Women's Institute), Idle (which really does have a Working men's Club), etc etc You used to be able to catch a Maidstone trolleybus to Loose, and it did have a women's institute.
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Post by class411 on Oct 24, 2013 8:05:22 GMT
BTW, there's a whole raft of odd real place names out there: Great Snoring (whose parish Council Chairman until recently was a Mr Gotobed - really), Ugly (alleged home of a Women's Institute), Idle (which really does have a Working men's Club), etc etc Favourite headline in a local paper...."Nasty man marries Ugley woman"....two nearby villages on the Herts/Essex borders.... Stop Press:The very best local news headline must surely be "Lost Baby Found in Sandwich" For some years I lived near Sandwich and have actually seen the famous sign that had 'Ham' and 'Sandwich' on one arm, many times. Sadly, I believe, it's no longer there as it kept getting stolen.
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Post by grahamhewett on Oct 24, 2013 8:43:05 GMT
class411 - then there was the sign in Lincolnshire which read "To Old Bolingbroke and Mavis Enderby" to which had been added " a son, both are doing well" phillw48 - wasn't the other end of trolleybus route "Barming" - hardly much better?
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Post by phillw48 on Oct 24, 2013 15:11:07 GMT
There used to be a sign on Liverpool Street Station saying 'Harwich for the Continent' to which 'Frinton for the incontinent' was frequently added.
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Post by castlebar on Oct 29, 2013 17:57:35 GMT
I see that estate agents now have a habit of spelling "South Mimms" with a 'y' as in 'Mymms'
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Post by castlebar on Oct 29, 2013 17:57:56 GMT
I see that estate agents now have a habit of spelling "South Mimms" with a 'y' as in 'Mymms'
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 16:47:24 GMT
I see that estate agents now have a habit of spelling "South Mimms" with a 'y' as in 'Mymms' Interesting, that! The 19th and early 20th century maps in the Village London Atlas show both South Mimms and North Mimms. But by the time of the 1948 OS 1-inch map (and probably by 1930, the date of the last full revision for that map) North Mimms had become North Mymms, but South Mimms still had the original spelling. At that time there was a county boundary between the two (South Mimms was in Middlesex until 1965). Could this be Hertfordshire wanting to standardise on their spelling? (Apologies if this is going o/t on a tangent!)
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Post by Alight on Mar 1, 2014 22:34:42 GMT
I realise the last post on this topic was October, but I don't want to create a duplicate.
'Wealdstone' has been a pronunciation I've been conscious over recently. Which out of the following four is correct?
1. 'weeld-stone' 2. 'weeld-ston' 3. 'weld-stone' 4. 'weld-ston'
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Post by superteacher on Mar 2, 2014 0:01:32 GMT
I always pronounce it as 1.
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 2, 2014 0:18:27 GMT
I'm with number two, or one.
First bit should be similar to "as he approached me, I noticed him wield a Working Time Table".
The second bit is a similie for rock, and you pronounce it according to where in the country you were born; for me it's "ston" with a very abrubpt stop - but I'm from the north.
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Post by Alight on Mar 2, 2014 13:11:51 GMT
Thank you to you both.
I heard a planned closures manual announcement refer to is option 2, but I think Emma Clarke on-board the Bakerloo line uses option 1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2014 20:32:48 GMT
Having grown up in Wealdstone, I can confirm that it's 'weeld-stone'.
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Post by melikepie on Mar 2, 2014 20:35:02 GMT
1 or 2 although 2 can easily get mixed up with Willesden
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Post by freddy on Mar 9, 2014 19:39:28 GMT
Three from the midlands, although not all stations:
You could go to Blackfordby, pronounced as seen but you would live in Blofferby.
Likewise Coleshill and Cozul, Uttoxeter and Uchiter (as in much)
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