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Post by snoggle on Nov 16, 2012 9:06:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 9:49:34 GMT
Thank you for that. So, it's possible to go from Clapham Junction to Clapham Junction with just one change of train (at Highbury or Canonbury). I'll have a go next month when I've got some time to spare  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 11:14:57 GMT
So, as the first date of the new timetable (9th December) is a Sunday, the first LO train to run over the Surrey Quays - Queens Road Peckham section with fare-paying passengers on board will be the 07:33 from SQ, arriving QRP at 07:38 ? The first train in the reverse direction departs - coincidentally - QRP at 07:38 Anyone else thinking of being amongst the first to traverse the new chord on Sunday 9th? I travelled on the first-ever DLR train, so it's only fitting I travel on the first ELLX2 train ! |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 16, 2012 11:49:18 GMT
So, as the first date of the new timetable (9th December) is a Sunday, the first LO train to run over the Surrey Quays - Queens Road Peckham section with fare-paying passengers on board will be the 07:33 from SQ, arriving QRP at 07:38 ? The first train in the reverse direction departs - coincidentally - QRP at 07:38 Anyone else thinking of being amongst the first to traverse the new chord on Sunday 9th? I travelled on the first-ever DLR train, so it's only fitting I travel on the first ELLX2 train ! Oh I expect the 0711 ELL ex Highbury on 9/12 might be disproportionately busy ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 13:40:41 GMT
I see that variously 10 or 11 minutes are being allowed from Wandsworth Rd to Clapham Jn against 6 in the reverse direction.
Hopefully that is merely a delay minutes fiddle factor and that punters can typically expect a 4-5 min early arrival as opposed to every train on that section going at walking pace and/or being subjected to an extended signal stop.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 16, 2012 14:16:19 GMT
So, it's possible to go from Clapham Junction to Clapham Junction with just one change of train (at Highbury or Canonbury). It's already possible to do that without changing trains at all, using the Kingston roundabout service. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 15:50:50 GMT
Very true but variety is the spice of life ;D ;D I might do both! Sad or what |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 16:06:49 GMT
I see that variously 10 or 11 minutes are being allowed from Wandsworth Rd to Clapham Jn against 6 in the reverse direction. Hopefully that is merely a delay minutes fiddle factor and that punters can typically expect a 4-5 min early arrival as opposed to every train on that section going at walking pace and/or being subjected to an extended signal stop. I would hope that it would be a few delay minutes but the fact that its a single line from platform 2 until ludgate jcn and the network rail rule that no trains can stand on the ludgate viaduct due to steep graidents mean, that trains could be held at the first wimbledon signal which is just before trains go under the main lines at culvert road. so I would imagine that trains are likely to be checked at 'culvert road' but I would say only for 1 min or so, a bit like what happens when the trains arrive at clapham junction from kenny o. I think a six minute reversal at clapham is good, and most importantly 5 minute connection time between stratford trains. |
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 16, 2012 18:52:36 GMT
i noticed two services (overground i think ) going to and from Battersea station
only in late - towards battersea - skipping Clapham junction and also departing in mornings - from battersea station
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 19:33:46 GMT
i noticed two services (overground i think ) going to and from Battersea station only in late - towards battersea - skipping Clapham junction and also departing in mornings - from battersea station This is the Parliamentary train |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2012 19:19:07 GMT
i noticed two services (overground i think ) going to and from Battersea station only in late - towards battersea - skipping Clapham junction and also departing in mornings - from battersea station As mentioned below, they are "Parliamentary" but I imagine are also a useful tool for route knowledge retention. Battersea Park will be able to be used in service perturbation. I am hoping to be on the 06.18 off of Battersea Park on Monday 10th December...... Richard |
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Post by redbond on Nov 18, 2012 15:28:38 GMT
Not really for route knowledge, we can go for up to six months not driving there and still be "current". It's only in passenger service from there in the mornings and to there in the evening. I think that's a bit silly really, why not in service both ways? In the morning we run ECS from the depot up to Dalston Junction then ECS to Battersea and in service, other way around in the evening.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 16:53:22 GMT
The line map in the TfL PDFs is still wrong. The Clapham service should diverge from north of the New Cross/West Croydon line, not as shown from the West Croydon section. Not that I really care as there are more worthy things in life but it's an irritant isn't it?
Mmmmmm............wine and Sunday dinner. Far more important.
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Post by andypurk on Nov 18, 2012 18:37:36 GMT
The line map in the TfL PDFs is still wrong. The Clapham service should diverge from north of the New Cross/West Croydon line, not as shown from the West Croydon section. Not that I really care as there are more worthy things in life but it's an irritant isn't it? Surely no different from many of the other adjustments made on the various line diagrams (e.g the Northern line junction at Kennington is south of the station, not north). |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 18, 2012 18:53:55 GMT
Plenty of other examples - for example the two branches of the Northern Line are back to front between Euston and Camden Town (in real life they cross over each other at Euston) and Camden Town station is north of the junctions, not in beween them.
At Ealing Broadway the Central and District are shown back to front.
Think of it as Beck did, as a wiring diagram - which points are connected by which wires? It doesn't matter where the wires go in between those points - above, below, twisted round each other or whatever.
Some versions of the tube map showed Marylebone and Edgware Rd (B) inside the Circle. Doesn't affect the topology at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 19:22:54 GMT
Surely no different from many of the other adjustments made on the various line diagrams (e.g the Northern line junction at Kennington is south of the station, not north). Ain't picking on you in particular but two wrongs don't make a right do they? No son, worse than that, it's wrong, wrong, double wrong and furthermore the junction's out in the open for all to see!................ ;D Make that treble wrong..........  Pedantry of the highest order admittedly. I should get out fishing a bit more......if that were possible! ATB Rich |
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Post by andypurk on Nov 18, 2012 19:59:42 GMT
Surely no different from many of the other adjustments made on the various line diagrams (e.g the Northern line junction at Kennington is south of the station, not north). Ain't picking on you in particular but two wrongs don't make a right do they? No son, worse than that, it's wrong, wrong, double wrong and furthermore the junction's out in the open for all to see!................ ;D No, it is not wrong. It is a diagram, not a map, so the position of the 'junctions' is not at all relevant to the information being conveyed. |
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