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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 27, 2012 8:41:30 GMT
Was there any particular reasons for a small number of stations - such as Regent's Park - having no surface structure whatsoever? Is there a list of such stations anywhere, including stations that once had surface structure which was later removed? Is it correct to assume that all New York City subway stations are holes in the ground?
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Post by 100andthirty on Apr 27, 2012 13:43:07 GMT
Is it correct to assume that all New York City subway stations are holes in the ground? Regarding this part of the question, it can't be right as some of the stations are above ground!!!
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Post by t697 on Apr 27, 2012 17:13:18 GMT
Was there any particular reasons for a small number of stations - such as Regent's Park - having no surface structure whatsoever? Is there a list of such stations anywhere, including stations that once had surface structure which was later removed? Is it correct to assume that all New York City subway stations are holes in the ground? And for Regent's Park, the station location at Park Crescent is both a convenient place for such a 'hole' and probably already a Conservation Area or equivalent at the time the line and station was built, thus precluding a surface level building. Someone else like to list others?
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Post by 21146 on Apr 27, 2012 17:17:51 GMT
Warwick Avenue has no surface building.
Old Street did have but is now accessed through subways.
Gants Hill has no real surface level buildings either.
Notting Hill Gate is another which had a surface structure and now desn't.
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Post by 100andthirty on Apr 27, 2012 18:00:58 GMT
As far as I recall Chancery Lane has no above ground presence.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 27, 2012 18:20:47 GMT
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Post by ianvisits on Apr 27, 2012 19:37:59 GMT
Was there any particular reasons for a small number of stations - such as Regent's Park - having no surface structure whatsoever? Usually economics - could the builders sell the airspace above their building site to someone. If not, then no need to waste money on surface structures.
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 27, 2012 20:07:19 GMT
Is that 3rd photo not technically a station building?
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 28, 2012 8:20:24 GMT
Thanks for the input and the great pictures. It just seemed odd to me that in between the grandeur of Baker Street Station and the elegance of Great Portland Street Station, you've got this hole in the ground calling itself Regent's Park Station
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Post by Chris M on Apr 28, 2012 8:49:09 GMT
As far as I recall Chancery Lane has no above ground presence. Chancery Lane was built with a surface building originally but when the lifts were replaced with escalators the entrance moved and no replacement building was built (no need). The surface building survives a short distance west of the present entrances. I think the surface building was/is used as an access to the deep level shelter turned telephone exchange. I was reading about it not long ago, possibly on London Reconnections. Hyde Park Corner similarly has a disused surface building due to escalators replacing lifts. Possibly Green Park too?
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Post by londonstuff on Apr 28, 2012 9:14:24 GMT
Thanks for the input and the great pictures. It just seemed odd to me that in between the grandeur of Baker Street Station and the elegance of Great Portland Street Station, you've got this hole in the ground calling itself Regent's Park Station The same case with Euston Square really. It had the same grandeur of Great Portland Street but was obviously knocked down at some point. Did this go to make way for the Wellcome Trust buiding or was it gone before then?
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Post by pitdiver on Apr 28, 2012 9:36:15 GMT
I think I am right in saying that Baker St and Gt Portland St Stns were built at a different time to Regent's Park.
As regard to Londonstuff's photo; I think that building had long gone before the Wellcome Trust Building was ever thought of. But on reflection is this not the North side of Euston Rd?
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Post by DWS on Apr 28, 2012 19:15:58 GMT
Thanks for the input and the great pictures. It just seemed odd to me that in between the grandeur of Baker Street Station and the elegance of Great Portland Street Station, you've got this hole in the ground calling itself Regent's Park Station The station at Baker Street was built by the the Metropolitan railway company, and the line between Paddington (Bishop's Road) and Farringdon (Street) opened on 10th January 1863. The Yerkes Tube the Baker Street and Waterloo Railway (Bakerloo Line) did not open its station at Baker Street until 10th March 1906.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2012 11:56:22 GMT
I'd agree - it's largely simple economics, if a building would be expensive in any particular location, or if there wasn't any suitable site, or if whoever owned the ideal site wouldn't sell, then why bother?
In terms of a list, the 'abandoned tube stations' sites tend to have info about buildings that are no longer there, or are no longer used as stations.
I'd add Euston (had two surface buildings, C&SLR one long demolished, CCE&H one remains in situ but not as a station) and London Bridge (unless it's already been demolished) off the cuff.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Apr 29, 2012 12:10:08 GMT
Does Bank have any surface buildings?
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Post by DWS on Apr 29, 2012 13:52:51 GMT
I'd agree - it's largely simple economics, if a building would be expensive in any particular location, or if there wasn't any suitable site, or if whoever owned the ideal site wouldn't sell, then why bother? In terms of a list, the 'abandoned tube stations' sites tend to have info about buildings that are no longer there, or are no longer used as stations. I'd add Euston (had two surface buildings, C&SLR one long demolished, CCE&H one remains in situ but not as a station) and London Bridge (unless it's already been demolished) off the cuff. Re the old City&SLR station at London Bridge not been for at least 5 years, but the site may have had some change of use as the Jubilee Line HQ has moved to a new site.
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