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Post by jardine01 on Apr 9, 2012 18:59:09 GMT
Currently living up North I have often wondered if Londoners are really that unfriendly? I would consider moving to London in a few years time is it a nice place to live? Often most people say Up north is the friendly however is down south the same? Ta
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Post by alfie on Apr 9, 2012 19:23:14 GMT
Depends where you live in London! Nice areas..and not so nice areas. I live in area sort of in between..
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 9, 2012 19:50:13 GMT
I was in a town in the north east on Good Friday and was pleasantly surprised to see people actually queuing up for the bus, and actually walking back to put litter in a bin they had already passed. Only the accent got to me with the word "bus" sounding similar to "puss"
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 9, 2012 19:55:27 GMT
When I visited london I have to say I was pleasently suprised to find that most people were quite friendly. Most shops I went to they said " Have a Nice Day" Or goodmorning. There is some very nice areas of london like Richmond, Wimbeldon, Hamstead, Kensington, North london ect.
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Post by vic09 on Apr 9, 2012 20:26:32 GMT
Ha ha they are all the really posh areas, not where I live Brixton, you wont want to move here, extremley rough and its Actully quite scary. I like it though because the Vics on my doorstep he he. clapham is very nice
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 9, 2012 20:39:42 GMT
I have yet to visit Brixton the furthest I have went on the victoria line is Pimlico!
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Post by vic09 on Apr 9, 2012 20:44:46 GMT
Trust me mate, you dont want to go past Pimlico!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 20:50:38 GMT
I was born in London in 1965 and was resident there until I moved away in 1987. Aiming to make as much money in as short of space of time as possible I began working down there again in 2000. Since then I have watched with sadness my birthplace go to the dogs. Too many people, too many cars, too much crime and a seemingly relentless and pointless ethic to work more hours than the day has hours. Why else would people complain about a train being two minutes late? Not for me anymore thanks. Time to go home and relax in the countryside on a fraction of the wages but free of the rat-race. And to quote, " There is some very nice areas of London like Richmond, Wimbledon, Hamstead, Kensington".......I'd check out what it'd cost to try and live there first. For a first time buyer right now I'd hazzard a guess earnings of c.£70-80k per annum would just about cover the deal inclusive of a reasonable standard of living going forward. Better off waiting for the London housing price collapse which can only be a short time away. It's unsustainable at current levels and will leave a lot of poor buggers high and dry when it implodes.....but for those circling it'll be bonanza time. Oh, and the people are like anywhere else in the UK. Friendly if you make the effort to get to know them otherwise watch your step!
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Post by alfie on Apr 9, 2012 21:02:58 GMT
Annoyingly enough, the horrible areas always have the same type of chavs people living there ..
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Post by Chris M on Apr 9, 2012 21:40:21 GMT
Better off waiting for the London housing price collapse which can only be a short time away. It's unsustainable at current levels and will leave a lot of poor buggers high and dry when it implodes.....but for those circling it'll be bonanza time. It's not just house prices (which aren't exactly sane in most parts of the country) but rents too. I read or heard somewhere recently that average rents are rising three times faster than average incomes. Obviously that isn't a sustainable state of affairs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 21:44:45 GMT
It's not just house prices (which aren't exactly sane in most parts of the country) but rents too. I read or heard somewhere recently that average rents are rising three times faster than average incomes. Obviously that isn't a sustainable state of affairs. Dead right Chris. My house up here is worth around £120k. The same in London would be upwards of £500k. Rents I would assume are of a similar ratio. It's all rubbish. I really feel for all of you trying to make your way down there nowadays and thank my stars I did what I did when I did. Best Rich
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 21:55:32 GMT
Personally I think it's almost impossible to give a definitive answer but I can give you my opinion as a born and bred Londoner.
I've travelled around the country a lot, I would agree Londoners are no more "unfriendly" than any other city really. Yes I have seen some acts of violence or verbal abuse but you will in any modern U.K. town or city of any size and for those incidents you will always see a few acts of kindness and generosity too, its a double sided coin. I have to say I'm not happy living in London at the moment, jobs are scarce and their is an air of uncertainty but nowhere in Britain is immune to that and its got nothing to do with Londoners being unfriendly.
I used to be a big fan of a certain comedian who was rather famous for a couple of sitcoms back in the 1970's who moved to the U.S. and a few months back decided he'd like to say some pretty inflammatory half-truth's about the city I live in and quite frankly I don't have the slightest grain of respect for that man anymore.
In my lifetime, I've grown up with people of the broad mix of cultures we have woven into the fabric of the place, seen limitless amounts of generosity and humility doing charity work and I'll never forget the way the city clung together and united after the events of 7/7, it makes me proud to be a Londoner. Don't just listen to what some small town persons stereotypical idea of Londoners are like before you make a judgement, you have to live here and experience the place before you can truly know what Londoners are like.
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Post by Tomcakes on Apr 9, 2012 21:57:39 GMT
Better off waiting for the London housing price collapse which can only be a short time away. It's unsustainable at current levels and will leave a lot of poor buggers high and dry when it implodes.....but for those circling it'll be bonanza time. It's not just house prices (which aren't exactly sane in most parts of the country) but rents too. I read or heard somewhere recently that average rents are rising three times faster than average incomes. Obviously that isn't a sustainable state of affairs. Unfortunately a self-perpetuating circle : rents are high therefore people have little money to save to buy a house therefore they can't buy a house therefore the demand for rented property increases therefore rents are high I do also remember hearing that the majority of mortgages now go to landlords, rather than people who wish to live in a house. However, I digress. Yes, I tend to find that people in London are less friendly than those who live "up north" - a generalisation, I know. If I say "morning" to the postman, or the dustman, or the bus driver down here they look at me like I've grievously insulted them.
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Post by littlebrute on Apr 9, 2012 22:00:11 GMT
What sort of area is Wembley then? Good, bad or in between? I'm moving there in September
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 22:08:53 GMT
What sort of area is Wembley then? Good, bad or in between? I'm moving there in September Where from? I worked in that area for several years from 1983 onnwards. If it's anything like it was then, it's rather busy. Best of luck. Like has been said, London isn't in itself unfriendly. Make the effort and you'll not have problems. It's just that everyone's so busy trying to keep their heads above water you may have to speak to a larger number of souls before you get any form of acknowledgement at all, friendly or otherwise.
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 9, 2012 22:12:58 GMT
I agree I am not saying londoners are personally unfriendly , it just comes from stereotypes basically. As a northerner born and bred most people associate the north as being friendly , however sometimes this is not the case. Up north can be quite grim at times mainly due to the weather and jobs. I know many people from London and the south east and they are nice people. What's the southerners verdict of up north?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2012 22:34:23 GMT
I agree I am not saying londoners are personally unfriendly , it just comes from stereotypes basically. As a northerner born and bred most people associate the north as being friendly , however sometimes this is not the case. Up north can be quite grim at times mainly due to the weather and jobs. I know many people from London and the south east and they are nice people. What's the southerners verdict of up north? People are people Jardine. They can be nice or nasty wherever you go. I'm a Londoner living in North Lincs. It's no problem really, although there is a misguided impression up here that people in the south have it better. IMHO having tried both I'd say they're way, way wrong. As far as a standard of living and a relatively stress free way of life is concerned, where I live tops it in almost every department. If I were you, I'd stay where you are and make the best of it. They're running out of room for life down there.
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Post by peterc on Apr 10, 2012 10:44:44 GMT
Well Londoners don't start conversations with total strangers on public transport.
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Post by castlebar on Apr 10, 2012 11:21:00 GMT
@ peterc
Yes they do!!
And it ALWAYS guarantees you a seat at the next station, as for some reason, the person you start to talk to always gets off at the next stop.
Especially if you start by wishing them a Happy Christmas, then talking to them about some of the ideas on the RIPAS board, and look out of the window for flying pigs.
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 10, 2012 11:37:22 GMT
Well Londoners don't start conversations with total strangers on public transport. On two occasions in the past month, an "Uncle Albert" (Only Fools and Horses) has decided to sit down next to me and strike up a conversion with me. "During the war ... "
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 10, 2012 11:38:54 GMT
Up North people don't tend to speak on Public transport mutch unless you be polite and let them get on first. I suppose its up to the individual if they want to be friendly or not i remember a friendly london cabbie driver and I have seem some friendly tube drivers too E.g Wishing everybody a nice weekend. If there is an unfriendly place it would be Wales personally I visited there once nobody gave me eye contact never mind not talking!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 18:33:54 GMT
Up North people don't tend to speak on Public transport mutch unless you be polite and let them get on first. I suppose its up to the individual if they want to be friendly or not i remember a friendly london cabbie driver and I have seem some friendly tube drivers too E.g Wishing everybody a nice weekend. If there is an unfriendly place it would be Wales personally I visited there once nobody gave me eye contact never mind not talking! The best way to make friends with the Welsh is to visit one of their pubs just after they've won the Rugby Grand Slam and tell the biggest bloke at the bar that they all speak funny. I did it last month and it works. I didn't get beaten up and, having been called a cockney **** by all and sundry, was happily having pints bought for me the rest of the evening. Obviously Jardine you have a few years to go until you can do this but I can recommend the tactic! ;D BTW, where in the grim and freezing northern wastelands do you live?
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 10, 2012 18:55:47 GMT
Currently living in Newcastle freezing up here haha
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2012 19:11:16 GMT
Currently living in Newcastle freezing up here haha ..........somewhere I go fishing from time to time speed-freak!! (on the River Derwent mainly). Funnily enough, I've always found it full of outgoing friendly people. IMHO a good place to live. You should post about the Metro where you are, in a suitable category of course. I know nothing about it and I'm sure it's very interesting. ATB Richard
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 10, 2012 22:05:16 GMT
Yes I know quite a bit about metro, would it be best placed to put it in general questions and comments?
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Post by alfie on Apr 10, 2012 22:10:03 GMT
Good plan. I'd like to know more about the Metro aswell
(That's a yes, to stick it in General Q&C)
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 10, 2012 22:20:20 GMT
Hope this is in the right place hopefully it is with it being in General questions and comments. Basically the metro is Britans first light rail system it is kind of simerlar to the tube in a way we do have three deep level stations underground. The metro runs from Airport around the coast then terminiating at South Sheilds and Sunderland. The metro is around 64 km long so about 40 miles in lengh ( Look on Wikipedia Tyne and wear metro for more infomation) The trains were built by Metro cammel in 1980. The metro is not ATO nor driverless! Its just simply a Fixed block signaling system it is used by around 40 million passengers a year so quite allot really nothing compared to the tube though! The metro is currently undergoing a big investment programme called " Metro all change" Simerlar to the tubes upgrade plan. The metro will get new trains, new signaling, refurbished stations ect within the next few years. However frequency is not as good as the tube off peak its around every 6-12 minutes peak times is every 2-4 minutes i think they run 23 TPH in the central core at peak times. As i said at the start of the post look on ( Wikipedia for photos of it and more infomation, or look at their website Tyne and wear metro.co.uk
hope this helps!
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Post by alfie on Apr 10, 2012 22:28:19 GMT
That website says it's a quid to for a child like me to travel all day. In London that's less than the price of an in bloody complete journey.. That yellow line is an unusual shape..but like the yellow line we have here aswell ;D
I'm surprised you don't know the top speed of the stock, you know! I also always thought you lived in London, the way you talk about the Jubilee.
Thanks for the info!
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Post by jardine01 on Apr 10, 2012 22:36:09 GMT
sorry forgot to say! The top speed is 50mph however all the signs are in Km/h so 80km/h. Well london is kind of my second home! I do have some familly here I do spend some time down here! I love the tube
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 11, 2012 2:24:55 GMT
It would be hard to adjust to a place where buses are hourly - or less - throughout the day and finish completely around 7PM or 8PM having been accustomed to a place where buses are every 10-12 minutes throughout the night.
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