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Post by ianvisits on Jan 10, 2012 20:38:06 GMT
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Post by charleyfarley on Jan 10, 2012 21:20:29 GMT
With the spiral staircase at Aldwych apparently being such a major concern, why could it not be arranged for the group to assemble at Holborn for a specially laid on train to Aldwych. Although access to Holborn's Platform 5 is closed off to passengers, I assume that access is still available if needed. Museum staff could be stationed at the entrance to the platform to ensure that only those with tickets are allowed past. The train, having discharged its passengers at Aldwych could then return to Holborn Platform 5 and remain there until needed again at Aldwych. Tickets could emphasize use of the special train and make the point that anyone who is late reaching Holborn has missed the opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 21:31:42 GMT
Why not just use the 72ts down there, then run it to Aldwych?
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Post by ianvisits on Jan 12, 2012 12:24:50 GMT
With the spiral staircase at Aldwych apparently being such a major concern, why could it not be arranged for the group to assemble at Holborn for a specially laid on train to Aldwych. As it happens, I suggested something vaguely similar as an alternative way to open Aldwych. People go in via Aldwych, down the stairs to platform level - then walk through the tunnel to Holborn, and exit there. With basic crowd control and timed tickets you can avoid the need for guided tours, just put up information boards as needed and have stewards at each of the key locations. You get two disused stations/platforms and to walk through a tunnel. Tickets would sell out in minutes!
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Post by Chris M on Jan 12, 2012 12:42:50 GMT
Can power be turned off to the bay platform at Holborn without affecting the operational railway? If not I suppose it could still be done on a day the power was off on that stretch for engineering works anyway,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 15:02:25 GMT
With the spiral staircase at Aldwych apparently being such a major concern, why could it not be arranged for the group to assemble at Holborn for a specially laid on train to Aldwych. Although access to Holborn's Platform 5 is closed off to passengers, I assume that access is still available if needed. Museum staff could be stationed at the entrance to the platform to ensure that only those with tickets are allowed past. The train, having discharged its passengers at Aldwych could then return to Holborn Platform 5 and remain there until needed again at Aldwych. Tickets could emphasize use of the special train and make the point that anyone who is late reaching Holborn has missed the opportunity. Don't know where the 72 MKI is at present, but if it's not back on the branch somewhere, it's quite difficult to get trains on/off the Aldwych branch these days. Only the northbound tunnel can be reached from the branch, meaning the train going to the branch must run wrong line at some point to shunt into platform 5. The points that control access to the branch must also be turned manually, meaning that traction must be turned off and then on again. This would obviously have to happen again to bring the train back off of the branch. So it is quite difficult to get trains on the branch these days, and I doubt it would happen.
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Post by 21146 on Jan 12, 2012 17:19:27 GMT
Whilst I'm quite sure accessing the tunnel to Holborn will never be allowed, the walks through the Thames Tunnel by LO a few years ago show this is perfectly possible under current H&S rules, if only the will is there.
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Post by alfie on Jan 12, 2012 17:21:59 GMT
As for power being there - chop the rails in half at Holborn?
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Post by abe on Jan 13, 2012 8:24:01 GMT
I'm sure I've read that power to the branch is controlled separately from the main line.
Really? I wasn't aware that power had to be removed for points to be operated manually. Or is this because the points are locked in some way (padlocked?) and therefore a greater degree of contact with the track is required?
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