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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 21:27:37 GMT
Hi everyone,
In case anyone is interested: seen passing through Watford Junction yesterday morning at 0750 - 378255 and another (possibly 256 but not confirmed) heading south. 378255 also seen today coming off Willesden TMD probably continuing its' 1000 mile + trials (or whatever it needs to do) before acceptance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 21:36:12 GMT
Likely to be 378214, as that is the unit that's been doing the testing with 255.
256 is still at Derby
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 21:42:10 GMT
Any progress with 257?
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Post by metman on Oct 12, 2011 22:27:45 GMT
These may have been seen at Crewe last week - Glyn?
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Post by patstonuk on Oct 13, 2011 20:09:33 GMT
Likely to be 378214, as that is the unit that's been doing the testing with 255. 256 is still at Derby 256 is due to be taken to Crewe from Derby tomorrow evening. Presumably 214 will head back north at some stage to accompany 256 on its test runs. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 12:46:27 GMT
378256 at Wembley Yard this morning at approx. 0800.
Martin
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 18:54:01 GMT
Apart from the numbers I swear they are all the same!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 19:22:23 GMT
378255 is out and about on the ELL
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2011 22:25:39 GMT
255 and 256 both out on the ELL yesterday.
Martin
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Post by redbond on Nov 10, 2011 21:15:57 GMT
I had the pleasure of driving 256 today, very nice handling!
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Post by angelislington on Nov 14, 2011 21:25:39 GMT
Just out of interest, what makes it drive nicely? (or for that matter, what makes it bad?)
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Post by redbond on Nov 14, 2011 23:27:55 GMT
Every unit has different characteristics, depending on the age of it. In terms of the one mentioned, rheostatic braking is much more responsive than older units, with a firmer 'bite' and quicker to react. Most of the other units I'd use brake step one coming into Canada Water on the up, and have to then go into step two halfway down the platform. With that unit I had to release the brakes halfway along the platform! Also quick acceleration is a rather nice thing to have as well. There is one particular unit that most of the drivers know that is the complete opposite. You get used to them after a couple of stops.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 8:31:09 GMT
They all accelerate in the same way. In fact power is increased to the motors to maintain acceleration when loaded!
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Post by patstonuk on Nov 16, 2011 18:12:57 GMT
378257 has arrived at Crewe for ac testing and mileage accumulation. I am not aware that any 'partner' has been dispatched north to accompany it.
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Post by redbond on Nov 16, 2011 19:40:52 GMT
They all accelerate in the same way. In fact power is increased to the motors to maintain acceleration when loaded! Yes power is increased in the motors whilst accelerating and braking so that there is no noticable differrence between driving an empty and a full unit. Like I said earlier, due to age and wear and tear of the different traction motors on each unit, you do find that some accelerate and brake better or worse than other units. Bizarrely there is even a difference in some units when driving from the other cab. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 19:52:40 GMT
378257 started its ac testing and mileage accumulation today (18th. Nov.) in the company of 378210.
Bob Parsons.
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Post by patstonuk on Nov 23, 2011 15:07:26 GMT
378257 started its ac testing and mileage accumulation today (18th. Nov.) in the company of 378210. Bob Parsons. 257 is scheduled to complete its ac testing overnight tonight/tomorrow morning and is then booked off Stafford at 1300 tomorrow for New Cross Gate. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 18:28:30 GMT
I saw 256 leaving Selhurst Depot @10:45 this morning and passed it again at @13:00 heading back towards Selhurst, just outside Clapham Junction.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 22:50:33 GMT
I saw 256 leaving Selhurst Depot @10:45 this morning and passed it again at @13:00 heading back towards Selhurst, just outside Clapham Junction. XF I think that one is in passenger service. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 0:23:55 GMT
I saw 256 leaving Selhurst Depot @10:45 this morning and passed it again at @13:00 heading back towards Selhurst, just outside Clapham Junction. XF I think that one is in passenger service. On what service though as it was heading from Clapham Junction to Selhurst on the East Croydon Line? XF |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2011 1:34:15 GMT
Probably not in service then but i'm sure its been in passenger service on the ELL.
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Post by redbond on Nov 24, 2011 3:17:48 GMT
That'd be for route learning for stock transfer between NXG and Willesden depots.
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Post by astock5000 on Dec 28, 2011 21:27:53 GMT
378257 has now entered service on the ELL.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2011 3:18:12 GMT
It's okay - not the hottest thing off the starting line ...
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Post by redbond on Dec 29, 2011 9:28:36 GMT
Yes it is rather sluggish! I don't like it, very different to 256.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 0:45:55 GMT
All 3 are now in service.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2012 8:31:25 GMT
378s 255/6/7 are all in active service and there is now a very clear division in the New Cross and Willesden fleets.
201 - 232 are Willesden units, 233 / 4, 255 / 6 / 7 along with DC units 135 - 154 are New Cross Gate sets.
I am surprised that 32 units are at Willesden, only 25 at NXG. Will a couple of units be moved 'south' when Clapham via Peckham opens, or is 25 sets sufficient for the the East London and South London Lines operations?
Any of our drivers have the details of the final stock requirements?
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Post by redbond on Jan 12, 2012 11:25:55 GMT
Since the new timetable in December '11, 21 units are currently required to run a full service on the East London Line. This includes two units for the weekday morning "PIXC Busters", they sit spare in the depot until the evening once the morning rush is over. I'd imagine we'd need four units for the SLL, so that would leave 2 units spare or for maintenance. This is as long as there still will be four trains per hour to all destinations.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 12, 2012 22:30:21 GMT
I'd imagine we'd need four units for the SLL, This is as long as there still will be four trains per hour to all destinations. That would require the round trip from Dalston to CJ and back to be done within an hour - the TfL site says the one way trip will take 40 minutes, which means you'll need six units to run four trains an hour. |
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Post by redbond on Mar 24, 2012 17:48:03 GMT
A software upgrade is currently being undertaken across the 378 fleet. The door close button will now be almost completely inoperative for customers. This is due to many incidents in which customers have pressed the close door button, either on purpose or by accidentally leaning on it, and making the doors close on alighting passengers. Also, before the doors would try to close 5 times if there was an obstruction, this is being reduced to two before it cuts out and remains open. The close door button will then only be activated in this situation.
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