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Post by flippyff on Sept 5, 2011 21:05:31 GMT
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Post by overground on Sept 5, 2011 21:20:14 GMT
Any journo who pulls their source from Wikipedia, and includes "Westgate on Sea" as a London station in "Essex" isn't to be believed. (Westgate is in Kent, about 75 miles from London). Farringdon is also down for closure on this list, which, last time I checked, wasn't a category E station... Especially with Crossrail just around the corner. Sensationalist rubbish on a slow news day.
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Post by bicbasher on Sept 5, 2011 21:39:21 GMT
Two station ticket offices that spring to mind from the list on the ELL are Penge West and Anerley which are only open part-time to cater for morning peak passengers.
I don't know how many TVM's both stations have, but there could be issues if these stations don't have the staff to administer the machines.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 0:43:57 GMT
The article lists Harringay Green lanes & Crouch Hill, neither of which have had ticket offices for many years, there may be others listed. Also there is no Brooksmans Park in Surrey or Hadfield in Herts and with other spelling mistakes the article looks to have been written by a 5 year old, which is a shame as no doubt tickets offices are under threat.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 0:45:48 GMT
Oh and Whitehaven is about 300 miles from Kent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 7:35:08 GMT
The decision to allow TOCs greater freedom to close booking offices is a recommendation under the McNulty report. The report claims all Cat E stations should not have a booking office and all Cat D stations to have reduced hours. There was conditions I.e. More & better TVM's or better retail alternatives.
There are mistakes in the source material. The list is of all Cat E stations but some clearly are not covered by DfT funding such as the LO and stations operated by funded operations such as Mersey Rail.
There are some far reaching proposals in the McNulty report such as widespread introduction of DOO. Change (reduction) in pay & conditions of rail staff (drivers).
The booking office proposals are, IMHO, very similar to what has been done on London Underground and will represent a reduction in service for most non commuter users and will only have a negative impact on the railways image.
Having personally found buying rail tickets online confusing with the raft of conditions that are not always clear, the ticketing system would need a massive overhaul before you can even consider removing booking offices and then I believe the impact of such a closure needs to be assessed individually for all user groups - including disability groups - rather than a blanket closure.
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Post by redbond on Sept 6, 2011 8:22:39 GMT
Driving through Penge West and Anerley, even late at night it is still manned, with the one platform staff member crossing over to meet each Overground train. I have seen them helping passengers at the machines even at 11pm.
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Post by SE13 on Sept 6, 2011 13:26:51 GMT
Sensationalist rubbish on a slow news day. It doesn't have to be a slow news day for a certain well known newspaper as we've all noticed on here before.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 19:11:11 GMT
Folkestone Harbour is on the list, that hasnt seen a train for years!
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 6, 2011 19:54:06 GMT
so is Alresford, which closed about 40 years ago (now part of the Mid Hants Rly)
Does Castle Bar Park have a ticket offIce?
The Evening Standard has probably confused Hadfield (Derbyshire) with Hatfield. They've also listed Bromley Cross as a London station - it's in Lancashire
Byfleet is in London, but Berrylands isn't!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 19:55:23 GMT
And according to their Geography, Bexhill is in Surrey!
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Post by castlebar on Sept 6, 2011 20:18:07 GMT
Castlebar Park didn't have a ticket office, but it had a sort of a ticket shed when l was there, - it was run by two old sisters until they got to about 70 (in about 1970). As there was only one train an hour then after the morning "rush", it seemed pretty pointless being open all day, though it was as a relic of the pre-1948 service to Ruislip etc. Then, when the old ladies retired, "Old Bill" ran the shed for some years. When the allotments were built on, a "pub" was built there and name "the Old Bill" was given to the pub for his 10 years or so of service there l think, but as you will see from my other posting l had moved to Sussex by then.
I understand the Old Bill pub was closed by the "real" old bill due to drug dealing and then burned down. Not up to date with news from that area these days. However, the ticket shed was open for about 3 hours every morning on the Greenford bound platform
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 8:31:18 GMT
Interesting history details. Not up to date with news from that area these days. However, the ticket shed was open for about 3 hours every morning on the Greenford bound platform The ticket office is still on the Greenford platform but is brick-built now (and heavily shuttered when closed). Open from 0645 (IIRC) to 1000 Monday to Friday. Andy
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