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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 10:53:53 GMT
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Post by knap on Aug 17, 2011 12:33:25 GMT
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Post by citysig on Aug 17, 2011 17:07:01 GMT
Just a heads-up as well, for those travelling via the Met that day -this is also the day we trial the next Metropolitan Line timetable (the one where everything runs via the local lines) ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 18:04:19 GMT
Just a heads-up as well, for those travelling via the Met that day -this is also the day we trial the next Metropolitan Line timetable (the one where everything runs via the local lines) ;D ;D TfL journey planner is saying to allow 40 minutes from Liverpool Street to Harrow on the Hill. Does this take account off said timetable trial, or should I allow longer? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 19:33:18 GMT
Just a heads-up as well, for those travelling via the Met that day -this is also the day we trial the next Metropolitan Line timetable (the one where everything runs via the local lines) ;D ;D TfL journey planner is saying to allow 40 minutes from Liverpool Street to Harrow on the Hill. Does this take account off said timetable trial, or should I allow longer? Not overly familiar with TFL journey planner but a normal journey on the current Met WTT off peak from Liverpoo St to HOH is 37 minutes Does it round up to the nearest 5, or perhaps there is longer stand time at Baker St? |
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Post by citysig on Aug 17, 2011 19:59:51 GMT
Having seen the timetable for that day (which has had to be tweaked here and there to work with the H&C for that weekend) there is additional stand time at Baker Street and Harrow to create the "desired effect" north of Harrow (to test the service where it has changed most).
That said, most trains Liverpool Street to Harrow are 36/38 minutes - and because it's the new service pattern, they leave there every 5/15 minutes, so there are more trains to choose from.
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 18, 2011 19:37:35 GMT
Am a little confused, the 38ts is running to "Watford South". Does this mean it will be travelling via the North Curve and reversing south of Watford station, or something completely different?
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Post by castlebar on Aug 18, 2011 19:46:01 GMT
If Easyjet can get away with calling Dijon "Paris South", so, LU can get away with calling Northwood "Watford South"
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Post by rincew1nd on Aug 18, 2011 19:50:59 GMT
I distinctly dislike the idea of the 38ts stopping at Northwood, wouldn't want the route to be set wrongly.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 22:50:15 GMT
Is LU now modeling itself on Easyjet? I know that luggage racks have been removed from the S Stock, can we now assume that LU will start charging for bags?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 11:38:16 GMT
I'm confused. According to national rail enquiries, Harrow on the Hill has toilets located in the ticket hall, but doesn't show any on the station map. Anyone know about toilet provision, as having travelled for nearly 2 hours, I'll want to have a loo visit before I ccommence stewarding (on the 1938 stock for those interested)?
If not, where are the nearest toilets to Harrow on the Hill please?
What platform is likely to be used for bringing the 1938 stock in?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 11:58:37 GMT
I can confirm that there is a gents' toilet in the ticket hall at HotH - or at least there was when I was passing through there a couple of weeks ago! Platform usage is an interesting question. Presumably, when it first arrives, the 1938 stock set would be likely to arrive empty into platform 5 and then reverse via the siding to platform 4 ready for its first departure to Amersham. I guess that the same will apply to SS plus entourage. However, when the Amersham - Harrow service is running, will the trains use the fast or slow lines, reversing via platform 5 / siding / platform 4, or run via the fast lines and reverse in platform 2? Photographers would be interested to know!  |
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Post by metman on Aug 31, 2011 22:20:19 GMT
I doubt there will be enough paths on the local line for the 1938/Sarah service to use. Looking at the timetable I think the heritage service will use the fast lines and reverse in/out of platform 2 at Harrow.
Perhaps initially the trains will start from Neasden depot?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 0:56:40 GMT
If they do use the fast lines that will be good as they wont be held up and forced to slow down for yellows and stop for reds etc
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Post by citysig on Sept 1, 2011 11:28:11 GMT
If they do use the fast lines that will be good as they wont be held up and forced to slow down for yellows and stop for reds etc ;D ;D You haven't seen the timetable for passenger services and the number of trains crossing to/from the fasts at Watford South Junction ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 15:43:38 GMT
I doubt there will be enough paths on the local line for the 1938/Sarah service to use. Looking at the timetable I think the heritage service will use the fast lines and reverse in/out of platform 2 at Harrow. Perhaps initially the trains will start from Neasden depot? What I do know is that at some point the week before, the 1938 stock will move from either Acton or Northfields (depending on whether they return it to Acton after it has passed its pre-trip medical with flying colours, or decide to move it straight from Northfields) to either Ruislip or Neasden. This is because the Piccadilly line is suspended between Hammersmith and Northfields/Uxbridge. The District line is also suspended from West Kensington to Richmond/Ealing Broadway. Note: that I do not know the exact timings of when this move will take place, and as I said, I also don't know whether the 1938 stock will go to Ruislip or Neasden. Photographers will just have to take pot luck. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 16:09:28 GMT
@metcontrol
Oh dear!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 0:20:56 GMT
I doubt there will be enough paths on the local line for the 1938/Sarah service to use. Looking at the timetable I think the heritage service will use the fast lines and reverse in/out of platform 2 at Harrow. Perhaps initially the trains will start from Neasden depot? What I do know is that at some point the week before, the 1938 stock will move from either Acton or Northfields (depending on whether they return it to Acton after it has passed its pre-trip medical with flying colours, or decide to move it straight from Northfields) to either Ruislip or Neasden. This is because the Piccadilly line is suspended between Hammersmith and Northfields/Uxbridge. The District line is also suspended from West Kensington to Richmond/Ealing Broadway. Note: that I do not know the exact timings of when this move will take place, and as I said, I also don't know whether the 1938 stock will go to Ruislip or Neasden. Photographers will just have to take pot luck. 38TS is going to Ruislip |
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Post by metman on Sept 3, 2011 8:34:56 GMT
Not surprised, there is hardly any room at Neasden as it is!
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Post by DWS on Sept 3, 2011 11:43:11 GMT
Not surprised, there is hardly any room at Neasden as it is! Send more A Stock to the scrap yard to make more room ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2011 22:29:00 GMT
Does anyone know what will be on the other end of the TC stock from Sarah Siddons?
The last I saw the 20s were at Doncaster for driver training although that was some time ago.
Nothing visible at Ruislip this afternoon.
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Post by pitdiver on Sept 7, 2011 4:50:42 GMT
What coaching stock is going to be used for the Amersham Heritage Day as I thought that the coaches that were used for "Steam on the Met" had all be scrapped.
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Post by metman on Sept 7, 2011 6:56:00 GMT
The coaching stock is usually the remaining set of 4TC.
I would imagine that a couple of class 20s might be sourced from somewhere!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 12:53:38 GMT
I hope these aren't stupid questions; why is a second loco required? Has SS lost her power over the years? Issues with brakes?
And how do the two drivers co-ordinate with each other?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 12:59:54 GMT
I hope these aren't stupid questions; why is a second loco required? Has SS lost her power over the years? Issues with brakes? And how do the two drivers co-ordinate with each other? Sarah Siddons is not push pull fitted to operate with the 4TC Therefore a loco is required at the other end to top an tail the train and avoid shunt moves/run rounds at reversal points (which could take time/tie up the operational railway/not be physically possible) The drivers at either end communicate by radio 2 after thoughts i) a 2nd loco is an insurance policy as you can't guarantee an 80+ year old loco will perform faultlessly ii) I don't know if the 4TC set itself still has functioning push/pull ability, presume this is a seperate area of maintenance and therefore may not have been kept up if not required? |
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Post by metrailway on Sept 7, 2011 13:53:49 GMT
The coaching stock is usually the remaining set of 4TC. I would imagine that a couple of class 20s might be sourced from somewhere! If not, maybe some battery locos instead like in the days of Steam on the Met. Slightly off-topic but on Wikipedia, it states that Mark 1 coach BSK 35011 is still in use by LU. However, I've never seen it out during specials etc, so is it still used or has it been sold off/scrapped? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 14:26:29 GMT
20302+20304 T+T 20301+20305 with S stock coming to Neasdon tonight, therefore could be one or two of those.
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Post by pitdiver on Sept 7, 2011 17:29:46 GMT
Who was the 4TC rolling stock repainted by. Secondly has 20227 been retuned to it's former BR colours. I thought it looked very smart in Met colours,
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 19:38:56 GMT
The BSK mentioned above may well be part of the TC set as the BSK and FK vehicles were all converted loco-hauled stock.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 19:48:59 GMT
Who was the 4TC rolling stock repainted by. Secondly has 20227 been retuned to it's former BR colours. I thought it looked very smart in Met colours, 20227 has been in red stripe railfreight for over 4 years Can confirm it was in that livery circa June 07 when Sarah made an outing to commemorate its handover to LU |
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