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Post by bicbasher on Jun 26, 2011 12:47:38 GMT
Is the £5 minimum spend now at every Zone 1 station?
Are there plans to spread it across the network or to LO stations where you can ask for £2.50 PAYG at Shoreditch High Street without any problems?
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Post by edwardfox on Jun 26, 2011 16:08:22 GMT
I thought it was common knowledge that there was a £5 minimum at all LUL ticket offices. I guess some ticket sellers might find it easier to simply sell what the customer asks for rather than go into the "I'm sorry, sir/madam, the minimum purchase at the ticket office is £5. You can purchase smaller top-ups from the ticket machines" speech. I have, however, observed several passengers having problems at the ticket machines. Apparently towards the end of the transaction, you have to momentarily remove the card from the reader, and then put it back. In some cases, then the passenger puts it back as prompted, he/she gets a "Your card cannot currently be read" message. Has the top-up/TravelCard gone on or not?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 16:28:11 GMT
I didnt even know there was a £5 minimum! The Travelcard is available as always
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 16:36:12 GMT
The touchscreen NR ticket machines have always had this cap. Always assumed that the ticket machines and ticket offices had a £5 minimum!
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Post by bicbasher on Jun 26, 2011 16:44:58 GMT
The touchscreen NR ticket machines have always had this cap. Always assumed that the ticket machines and ticket offices had a £5 minimum! LO and Southern don't. Southeastern have a £5 minimum on Oyster at their TVM's. As far as I'm aware, LUL stations which have the £5 limit at the ticket office show a sign on the window. Most if not all Zone 1 stations have the limit, Canada Water in Zone 2 doesn't, although I think Canary Wharf being a busy station does. Still I went the LO managed Surrey Quays today and the ticket clerk was happy to put £4.20 on my Oyster card.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 16:52:29 GMT
Im guess it doesnt apply to child tickets then?
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Post by causton on Jun 26, 2011 18:53:43 GMT
Tickets? I knew the minimum Oyster top-up was £5 - but surely you can still purchase e.g. a child travelcard from the ticket office (especially as most machines have child tickets disabled when the ticket office is open!)
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Post by bicbasher on Jun 26, 2011 19:07:11 GMT
Surely the child ticket is a minority sale these days with most if not all London school children of fare age using Oyster?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 19:09:05 GMT
Surely the child ticket is a minority sale these days with most if not all London school children of fare age using Oyster? You'll be surprised how many don't know you can even put PAYG credit on!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 19:14:32 GMT
When I am with friends, I take great delight in offloading a few quid in silver to top up... Nice on the no change given machines when a couple of quid in 10p's hits the catch box at the bottom!
Its a good idea to have a minimum at the busier stations, saves a long queue and trouble for the Clerks. I've heard of cases where people have queued to have 35p or something silly added to their PAYG balance.
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Post by bicbasher on Jun 26, 2011 20:19:35 GMT
Surely the child ticket is a minority sale these days with most if not all London school children of fare age using Oyster? You'll be surprised how many don't know you can even put PAYG credit on! That goes to show that some don't read the leaflet provided by TfL with their Zip Oyster, I assume most just use it for free travel on the bus instead? Crazy when it's so cheap to use the tube/DLR/Overground.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 20:28:01 GMT
The child option is rarely disabled at South Ruislip or Eastcote and all the stations near where I live.
Yes loads of people buy tickets, especially chavs and other idiots who have lost their Oysters because they broke the rules
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 20:47:03 GMT
You'll be surprised how many don't know you can even put PAYG credit on! That goes to show that some don't read the leaflet provided by TfL with their Zip Oyster, I assume most just use it for free travel on the bus instead? Crazy when it's so cheap to use the tube/DLR/Overground. Indeedily. I prefer to use paper tickets for the flexibility, but it's significantly cheaper at the moment for me to use my oyster card over paper tickets. Don't see why you can't buy a child paper ticket (more expensive) with an 11-15 oyster, yet can still use the PAYG until expiry, even after turning 16.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 20:55:26 GMT
I always buy a paper ticket unless im just making a single journey
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Post by redsetter on Jun 26, 2011 21:19:59 GMT
bought two oysters on line and paid £5 deposit and these have a minimum £5 top up,there are cheap cards on ebay dating from the royal wedding around £2 but the seller claims a deposit still needs to be paid at the ticket office,i bought a couple and will try without.
i dont like having to register cards and the tfl site appears to have an agent in scotland who sends them from a p o box who automatically does this. there's no opt out option.
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Post by bicbasher on Jun 26, 2011 22:10:21 GMT
I should have made the title a bit more clearer with regards to Oyster as I did witness £4 paper singles still being sold at Charing Cross and Leicester Sqaure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 8:31:24 GMT
The £5 minimum top up is nothing new and was introduced company wide by LU. The unions recently instructed their members not to follow this as a part of the recent industrial action.
The minimum top up does not apply to paper tickets, child PAYG nor when you PAYG is in a negative balance.
This decision was made to reduce the time queuing at the ticket office.
Selling Oyster cards that have not had their deposit already taken at the booking office/ newsagent is a tad risky. It appears to me that the seller has simply "taken" (stolen?) a number of cards and has sold them. The cards would not have been initialised and I seriously doubt that any of the passenger operated machines would accept the cards. It has been a long time since I've been in a booking office, but I'd guess that anybody bring an Oyster card to a booking office would ring alarm bells to the clerk as well as the Oyster system.
The very best is you'd pay £7 for something that you can get for £5 at a station/ oyster shop.
Regarding child tickets from passenger operated machines. When the ticket office is open then this facility should be turned off. When a ticket office is closed, then the machine must sell child tickets. This is a manual feature turned on/ off by staff.
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Post by redsetter on Jun 27, 2011 14:27:35 GMT
thanks,i did read there was a dispensing machine that will take £5 in coins for the card with a £2 top up.i don't know if this is the case and the machines updated
i don't know the history of the ebay ones he did two for £3.50 but looks to have stopped selling them.i thought they were old stock as the event is now history if i didn't like the photo just turn it around.
THIS IS A SOUVENIR ITEM. FOR THE OYSTER CARD TO WORK, A DEPOSIT WILL NEED TO BE PAID AT THE TICKET OFFICE.
THANK YOU
was at the end. at least he did warn,i will try them and see if they reject.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 15:53:49 GMT
There's one of those dispenser machines at South Ken on the wall next to the tunnel to the museums in the ticket hall.
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Post by redsetter on Jun 27, 2011 17:43:21 GMT
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