A Stock versus S Stock

many pros and cons, tbh i think the s stock is going to be alot better than people make it out to be. i mean the other day i had a large suitcase, and was dreading the fact at how hard it would be to take it through the a stock while getting a seat. However an s stock turned up, much more space and i still got a seat.

However i still do wonder why the s stock doesnt have just a little more traverse seating on it?

but the whole point of the met would be to have a compromise wouldnt it? having a few more seat would be handy,

however the 2009 stock is not walk through, surely at least it wouldve made sense to have automatic doors at least between the carriages?

yes it does on the s8 on the met line there are!

But that would lose the standing room on the articulated part between the cars.

It was a shame that the 2009 stock wasn't more like the MF2000 Paris Metro stock (a long articulated unit). Such designs exist for LU (the 'Space Train'), but would probably have been too risky whilst Metronet were in charge of the upgrade.

Problem is Onion, you're wishing for a Utopia that no longer exists. I work in London and look at the overpopulation with some sadness. At weekends I go home to North Lincs and my road is devoid of parked cars, there's hardly any traffic, it's green and leafy and the infrequent DMU trains sometimes only have one carriage, transverse seating and maybe 10 passengers. Two opposites. London suffers from the price of being a successful city. Everybody wants to live there and the transport has to cope and if that means squeezing every last useable cubic inch out of a train carriage, even something resembling a bendy bus, then that is the way isn't it? How else could the numbers be transported?

The vast majority of London commuters really don't care about appearance or interior design of their trains. All they want to do is get where they want to go to as fast and in as little discomfort as possible. In the current overpopulated metropolis, the S Stock has to be significantly more capable in my book.

Looks like a bug but it's not really important! ;D

I know, whistlekiller its just what I'd like it to be like =P

Agreed and I often play devil's advocate, a shabby trait I really should cease..........but: nostalgia often overides logic. I'd have the 60TS back on Woodford to Hainault tomorrow if I could and I'd like the shops shut on Sundays. I'm not religious or anything like that but it does seem a shame that we're gradually losing a more innocent age. I'm in the minority though and my regrets carry little weight so I can't really complain can I? Back in the real world, like I said, S Stock is designed for and is far more capable of meeting the challenges the modern Met faces. Sad but true. Say goodbye to the A Stock with a glad heart Onion, they did good but their time is over.

The ride on the S stock is significantly better at speed. Sometimes the bouncing up and down as well as the sideways motion, on the A stock in the tunnels 'twixt Finchley and Baker, and on the fast section around Neasden, is so uncomfortable you can hardly hold a book straight or write. On the S stock I have recently become so engrossed in a book that I was surprised how fast the journey seemed to pass. I still find the seats hard though, there is nothing like settling into the soft seats just behind the driver on the A where you are out of the way of everybody else.

I totally agree. But only because I don't have to commute on it every day!