New Stock.. design thoughts

Personally I'd like to see comfortable seats! I'd also like the displays that are on the 09 stock showing destination and next station on the outside too

Its nearly always tourists who do that! lol

New Picc Stock design requirements:

6 Cars
Walk thorugh
3 pairs of Double Doors per car.
92TS Windows married to 09TS Styling
TBTC/ATP akin to system used on Jubilee.

Internally I'd remove all seats between the 3rd set of doors in the driving cars, and the 1st set of doors in the 2nd/5th car, replace one 'bench' with wheelchair area, the other 3 with luggage racks (if people don't get what I mean I'll draw a diagram) - effectively giving a large luggage/wheelchair space in the articulate sections between cars 1 and 2, and 5 and 6.

Same as current except articulated if possible (South Ken is quite tight on the turns could that squeeze people in those folds ). By the time the stock is built you're one stupid tourist if you aren't using Crossrail. We're all gonna be a bit fatter by then as well so some wider seats maybe?

Then you ought to have made that clear in your OP....

As you are quite new here, we'll leave this thread as it is.

In the future though, if you are merely asking peoples views to stimulate an informal discussion, I would suggest the more appropriate place to do so would be the Railway Ideas, Proposals and Suggestions area which can be found at the bottom of the home page.

I think these new trains should be based on a brand new design not on the 1992 stock for example. I would like to see more standing room air conditoning ( I know its not possible on deep lines but something like forced air like on the victoria line)

LU should remember that, its trains dont only serve tourists. The Underground also goes out to far away places like Epping or Uxbridge meaning that more standing room is not ideal.

Like they've tried in New York with an R-160?!?:
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People at the extremes of the line will get a seat as they'll be the first on an empty train! In the example of the Piccadilly I bet in a normal rush hour there are still available seats as far down the line as... Wood Green (for the Cockfosters branch) by the time the train is at Finsbury Park i'd imagine a large amount of passengers would've got off to get the Victoria, meaning those who'd got on after say Wood Green can take their seats. This argument that passengers have to stand up for over an hour is just not valid IMO. I only live in Kilburn on the Jubilee line and when I travelled every morning I often got a seat, despite it being in Zone 2!

When you first join LUL amongst other things you are told is that regular commuters only make up a third of our passengers and that the majority use us less than 7 days a year. Or something along those lines, it was a very long time ago.

In the peak less seats means more standing space means more passengers can get on board and with demand growing unless we can find a way to increase frequency (cheaply) this will be a growing trend. Off peak there should be plenty of seats for people on long trips.

Crowding around the door inside the train, everyone does it, all are equally guilty. Same with not moving down the platform so you have big crowds around the stairs and empty spaces further along.

The biggest sin of tourists is large groups entering or exiting the train by a single door, the worst sin of commuters is crowding around the door on the platform so people can only get off one at a time.

Last I heard was that the replacement due in 2014 had been cancelled and they will soldier on with the 73s until someone coughs up the readies. Maybe sometime after the next General Election, depends on who gets in and how much is in the piggy bank.

When they do finally get round to replacing them unless any serious issues have come up since they refurbed the 73s I doubt if the interior design of the new trains will be much different, they’ll be designing with Heathrow in mind first and foremost, so it will be “tourist friendly” no matter what.

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Piccadilly Line Uxbridge to Cockfosters is +/- 100mins. Often forgotten about!

I used to congregate in the doorways even on empty trains! Personally I hated sitting down and apart from travelling to and from work in the few years that I didn't drive to work I was generally on duty in overalls with a toolbag or two and sometimes a briefcase as well. Londoners like sardine cans, they are not only used to them but also enourage their use.
Trains without seats for all but the temporarily or permanently disabled would be far better. They'd carry more customers who just love to be close to one another!